While they do both predict Michigan will win by 7 which I disagree with... they breakdown a lot of game elements that most people probably overlook when capping games. Definitely worth a watch.
They both think if Washington plays close to how they did against Texas that the Huskies will win but their opinion is that Penex performance is probably not going to be repeatable against a better defense.
While they do both predict Michigan will win by 7 which I disagree with... they breakdown a lot of game elements that most people probably overlook when capping games. Definitely worth a watch.
They both think if Washington plays close to how they did against Texas that the Huskies will win but their opinion is that Penex performance is probably not going to be repeatable against a better defense.
A bit of amateur hour but not bad. To think that Penix's effort is not repeatable is borderline foolish. I seriously doubt he'll end up with 400+ yds. passing but it wouldn't surprise me if he throws for 300+. One thing the Huskies do well is NOT go away from who they are, but also adjust to what's given them. Not every game was a monster game for Penix, stats wise, but what you don't see in the box scores are how they are able to sustain drives & score w/o hitting big plays. Did you see the TOP result vs. Texas? Not something most would've expected to see. Same thing in the Pac-12 CG vs. Oregon......they're not gonna shy away from running the ball because everyone says you can't against Team X.
Some claim that UM "was built for this"......maybe so, but they haven't seen "this" yet this season. They looked rather avg. at times vs. bama, but at times also exposed where bama was weak, namely at QB. I'll not be surprised if UM jumps out to a 10 pt. lead early on, & they're gonna have to. If they have to play from behind then they won't have the luxury of just churning away clock & yards because if they fail to score then they get taken out of their game altogether.
A bit of amateur hour but not bad. To think that Penix's effort is not repeatable is borderline foolish. I seriously doubt he'll end up with 400+ yds. passing but it wouldn't surprise me if he throws for 300+. One thing the Huskies do well is NOT go away from who they are, but also adjust to what's given them. Not every game was a monster game for Penix, stats wise, but what you don't see in the box scores are how they are able to sustain drives & score w/o hitting big plays. Did you see the TOP result vs. Texas? Not something most would've expected to see. Same thing in the Pac-12 CG vs. Oregon......they're not gonna shy away from running the ball because everyone says you can't against Team X.
Some claim that UM "was built for this"......maybe so, but they haven't seen "this" yet this season. They looked rather avg. at times vs. bama, but at times also exposed where bama was weak, namely at QB. I'll not be surprised if UM jumps out to a 10 pt. lead early on, & they're gonna have to. If they have to play from behind then they won't have the luxury of just churning away clock & yards because if they fail to score then they get taken out of their game altogether.
@THEMUGG
Good points. I thought it was interesting what they said about complicated defenses being at a disadvantage and needing more time. Michigan spent an entire month studying how to beat Alabama and they still needed to catch break after break after break at the end to come away with a win. Washington has an entirely different offensive scheme with a far better qb so Michigan will definitely have their hands full in this one.
Something being ignored by all of the Michigan betters is how bad Alabama's Center played in that game.
He had trouble snapping the ball all game... the yips, sick with the flu, who knows but you put an average center in that game and Alabama comes away from that game with a win.
I walked away from the video more optimistic in Washington's chances.
I don't think Washington will have trouble throwing the ball AND expect their line to hold up... do both of those things and Washington has a great chance of coming away from this one with a win.
@THEMUGG
Good points. I thought it was interesting what they said about complicated defenses being at a disadvantage and needing more time. Michigan spent an entire month studying how to beat Alabama and they still needed to catch break after break after break at the end to come away with a win. Washington has an entirely different offensive scheme with a far better qb so Michigan will definitely have their hands full in this one.
Something being ignored by all of the Michigan betters is how bad Alabama's Center played in that game.
He had trouble snapping the ball all game... the yips, sick with the flu, who knows but you put an average center in that game and Alabama comes away from that game with a win.
I walked away from the video more optimistic in Washington's chances.
I don't think Washington will have trouble throwing the ball AND expect their line to hold up... do both of those things and Washington has a great chance of coming away from this one with a win.
A 7pt win by either side is realistic in my opinion although I believe Washington will be the team coming away with the win.
And McCord was crap this year so their Ohio State comparison is moot.
McCord is on his way to Syracuse while Penex is on his way to the nfl as a top 5 pick.
A 7pt win by either side is realistic in my opinion although I believe Washington will be the team coming away with the win.
And McCord was crap this year so their Ohio State comparison is moot.
McCord is on his way to Syracuse while Penex is on his way to the nfl as a top 5 pick.
@Pablo989
Yep.....great point about the center........& let's not forget that UM had to score late just to get to OT.
@DefenseWinsSB
I don't think there are many "haters", just some who are fans of UM & others who just think UM will win/cover. Let's face it, neither of these programs have been here in a while. It's exciting for both sides.
GO DAWGS!
@Pablo989
Yep.....great point about the center........& let's not forget that UM had to score late just to get to OT.
@DefenseWinsSB
I don't think there are many "haters", just some who are fans of UM & others who just think UM will win/cover. Let's face it, neither of these programs have been here in a while. It's exciting for both sides.
GO DAWGS!
@THEMUGG
Alabama had them down at the 1 yard line at the end of the 4th qtr too... a safety would have won it.
That was an extremely sloppy game for a Michigan team that had a month off to prepare.
@THEMUGG
Alabama had them down at the 1 yard line at the end of the 4th qtr too... a safety would have won it.
That was an extremely sloppy game for a Michigan team that had a month off to prepare.
Alabama/UM was hot garbage. Not impressed at all.
The time to prepare is interesting... I always thought it favours more talented team, which was Alabama last week. Obviously wrong in that case
These games are very nerve-racking..in theory anything can happen score-wise although I can't see UM putting up 50 points
Lastly, UW = lightening fast starts last 2 games.. UM threw a very nervous interception1st play vs Bama. Luckily, the defender's football half an inch out-of-bounds
Alabama/UM was hot garbage. Not impressed at all.
The time to prepare is interesting... I always thought it favours more talented team, which was Alabama last week. Obviously wrong in that case
These games are very nerve-racking..in theory anything can happen score-wise although I can't see UM putting up 50 points
Lastly, UW = lightening fast starts last 2 games.. UM threw a very nervous interception1st play vs Bama. Luckily, the defender's football half an inch out-of-bounds
@jimrockford22
Correct, Washington dictated the pace of their game from the start. Every time Texas tied it up a few minutes later Washington took back the lead.
Michigan played awful football in the 1st/3rd qtr and were lucky to come away with the win. Alabama kept shooting themselves in the foot as well.
With only 1 week to prepare and a completely different offense on deck, I would be surprised if Michigan's defense was able to get off to a good start against Washington.
This is why the current spread makes no sense.
Michigan/Washington game was a defensive struggle for 4 quarters yet still had 40 points at the end of the 4th.
IF Washington scores 30+ points in this game, how does this total not go over?
I think they said something similar in the video... Unless Washington's offense is completely shut down both teams are likely to put up 30 points each at a minimum in this one.
O/U was briefly at 54.5, currently at 56.5.
A game total of 60+ pts is very likely and the line movement seems to agree with me.
@jimrockford22
Correct, Washington dictated the pace of their game from the start. Every time Texas tied it up a few minutes later Washington took back the lead.
Michigan played awful football in the 1st/3rd qtr and were lucky to come away with the win. Alabama kept shooting themselves in the foot as well.
With only 1 week to prepare and a completely different offense on deck, I would be surprised if Michigan's defense was able to get off to a good start against Washington.
This is why the current spread makes no sense.
Michigan/Washington game was a defensive struggle for 4 quarters yet still had 40 points at the end of the 4th.
IF Washington scores 30+ points in this game, how does this total not go over?
I think they said something similar in the video... Unless Washington's offense is completely shut down both teams are likely to put up 30 points each at a minimum in this one.
O/U was briefly at 54.5, currently at 56.5.
A game total of 60+ pts is very likely and the line movement seems to agree with me.
I was thinking the game total is too high
I think a really low scoring game is UM's best hope
I think UW has killed it in ATS vs ranked teams because power ratings are so screwed up
I was thinking the game total is too high
I think a really low scoring game is UM's best hope
I think UW has killed it in ATS vs ranked teams because power ratings are so screwed up
Yeah when the semifinal vs Texas was a shootout I had a bad feeling because I thought that suits Washington much better.
I think Michigan will probably win but I'm not in any rush to bet against Penix again. I've seen it before in NFL when a team is a dog every game and keeps winning they win it all - as a dog. It's when dog winners go on to be favs i like to fade them.
I like Washington's coach, he has done a good job. 2 fumbles in 2nd half really hurt Texas. Michigan doesn't turn the ball over. McCarthy hasn't thrown a pick in recent memory and they have the 12th least fumbles in the nation.
If anyone can get to Penix Michigan can, and that's what needs to happen to beat them. However, you could also say if anyone can slow down the Wolverines pass rush Washington can. Penix enjoys a clean pocket all year and gets rid of the ball quick.
Alabama, on the other hand, gave up a lot of sacks this year. More than any other Bama team ever they said during the game last week. And I never rated Milroe highly as a passer. Penix should be the first pick in the draft or first QB taken. I don't see how Caleb Williams is better than him.
I just think the way the world is, evil cheaters, corrupt leaders are prospering so Michigan will probably win. One of the biggest blunders I made this season is thinking Texas, with their drunk coach and a track record of nothing but underachievement ever since VY, would win that game vs Washington.
The Pac12 was a really good conference this year. The Big 12 is always trash and those teams always lose in the CFP. The Big10 wasn't good this year either, and they mostly sucked in their bowls, too.
Penix played in the big10 which is interesting, might be worth seeing if he had any games vs Michigan and how he did (i can never remember who is in east and west and obviously Indiana wasn't as good as this Washington team.)
Texas's power run game definitely had some success 1st half but they didn't stick with it enough (they didn't have the lead to allow that). Michigan impressed me how they responded when they were down a TD in both the 1st and 2nd halfs last game as they were rarely in that situation this year. But they couldn't score at all in the 3rd quarter.
I like Washington's offense. Guys are just always open in space and/or with blockers around so they can get YAC. Very good coach. Michigan special teams is a weak point and they won't have freshman OL guys to feast on like vs. Bama.
I don't see this one being a blowout either way and it's easy to make a case for both teams, like I said I lean to Michigan but Washington has proved me wrong the last twice and I'm not gonna make that mistake again so I'll probably skip it and just watch.
Yeah when the semifinal vs Texas was a shootout I had a bad feeling because I thought that suits Washington much better.
I think Michigan will probably win but I'm not in any rush to bet against Penix again. I've seen it before in NFL when a team is a dog every game and keeps winning they win it all - as a dog. It's when dog winners go on to be favs i like to fade them.
I like Washington's coach, he has done a good job. 2 fumbles in 2nd half really hurt Texas. Michigan doesn't turn the ball over. McCarthy hasn't thrown a pick in recent memory and they have the 12th least fumbles in the nation.
If anyone can get to Penix Michigan can, and that's what needs to happen to beat them. However, you could also say if anyone can slow down the Wolverines pass rush Washington can. Penix enjoys a clean pocket all year and gets rid of the ball quick.
Alabama, on the other hand, gave up a lot of sacks this year. More than any other Bama team ever they said during the game last week. And I never rated Milroe highly as a passer. Penix should be the first pick in the draft or first QB taken. I don't see how Caleb Williams is better than him.
I just think the way the world is, evil cheaters, corrupt leaders are prospering so Michigan will probably win. One of the biggest blunders I made this season is thinking Texas, with their drunk coach and a track record of nothing but underachievement ever since VY, would win that game vs Washington.
The Pac12 was a really good conference this year. The Big 12 is always trash and those teams always lose in the CFP. The Big10 wasn't good this year either, and they mostly sucked in their bowls, too.
Penix played in the big10 which is interesting, might be worth seeing if he had any games vs Michigan and how he did (i can never remember who is in east and west and obviously Indiana wasn't as good as this Washington team.)
Texas's power run game definitely had some success 1st half but they didn't stick with it enough (they didn't have the lead to allow that). Michigan impressed me how they responded when they were down a TD in both the 1st and 2nd halfs last game as they were rarely in that situation this year. But they couldn't score at all in the 3rd quarter.
I like Washington's offense. Guys are just always open in space and/or with blockers around so they can get YAC. Very good coach. Michigan special teams is a weak point and they won't have freshman OL guys to feast on like vs. Bama.
I don't see this one being a blowout either way and it's easy to make a case for both teams, like I said I lean to Michigan but Washington has proved me wrong the last twice and I'm not gonna make that mistake again so I'll probably skip it and just watch.
Of course Penix can duplicate what he did against Texas. Put mich in pac-12 and of course their defensive numbers won't look the same. We know offenses are mostly weak in big 10. Only common opponent was mich st, and mich lit them up for 477 total yards cool. dubs lit them up for 713 total yards. Penix torched them for 473 yards before exiting in the 3rd quarter(Did you hear me the 3rd quarter). Name a michigan db, I dont follow them and maybe you can but no names Ive heard of. I'm sure they are good. Just havent heard of a top guy. I looked up a guy projected 3rd round Sainristil ok. Gonna need more than that
Of course Penix can duplicate what he did against Texas. Put mich in pac-12 and of course their defensive numbers won't look the same. We know offenses are mostly weak in big 10. Only common opponent was mich st, and mich lit them up for 477 total yards cool. dubs lit them up for 713 total yards. Penix torched them for 473 yards before exiting in the 3rd quarter(Did you hear me the 3rd quarter). Name a michigan db, I dont follow them and maybe you can but no names Ive heard of. I'm sure they are good. Just havent heard of a top guy. I looked up a guy projected 3rd round Sainristil ok. Gonna need more than that
@NutinButtLove
You make some good points. But I think if you were to give Milroe a good o-line in the nfl he would actually be pretty good easily top 15 potential based on arm strength and running ability.
Doubt there are any nfl centers out there who play anywhere near as bad as Alabama's did in the Michigan game. I didn't watch much of Alabama during the year but that o-line sure didn't look good in that one. A lot of line blocking was terrible which of course made Michigan's defense look even better.
For anyone unsure about how to bet the Washington/Michigan game... EITHER TEAM TO WIN BY 1-10 points odds are -120. That looks like a solid bet.
Washington has won 10 games in a row by 10 or less which is a hell of a streak.
And even if Michigan ends up winning this game you can probably count on Penix to at least make it close in the end.
@NutinButtLove
You make some good points. But I think if you were to give Milroe a good o-line in the nfl he would actually be pretty good easily top 15 potential based on arm strength and running ability.
Doubt there are any nfl centers out there who play anywhere near as bad as Alabama's did in the Michigan game. I didn't watch much of Alabama during the year but that o-line sure didn't look good in that one. A lot of line blocking was terrible which of course made Michigan's defense look even better.
For anyone unsure about how to bet the Washington/Michigan game... EITHER TEAM TO WIN BY 1-10 points odds are -120. That looks like a solid bet.
Washington has won 10 games in a row by 10 or less which is a hell of a streak.
And even if Michigan ends up winning this game you can probably count on Penix to at least make it close in the end.
Elite vision... check
Elite passing... check
Cannon for an arm... check
Crazy how good Penix looks here. He's an nfl QB playing against college players. Can avoid sacks with ease. And some of his throws were so perfect.
He plays anywhere near this good against Michigan he is winning the championship and will be drafted #1 in the NFL.
Elite vision... check
Elite passing... check
Cannon for an arm... check
Crazy how good Penix looks here. He's an nfl QB playing against college players. Can avoid sacks with ease. And some of his throws were so perfect.
He plays anywhere near this good against Michigan he is winning the championship and will be drafted #1 in the NFL.
Pundits claim three main reasons to dismiss him as a top pick. One, he's 24 years old......two, he's not a running QB, which kind of makes point one moot........& three,he has a history of being injured. Well let's see....so does Lamar Jackson, Kirk Cousins, Garapolo, Tuatagavaloa, Stafford, Herbert, Burrow, Murray, Watson, Jones, etc.......no one is immune from getting injured in the NFL.
It would be better for him to go mid-first round than to one of the bad teams drafting early, ie hope you don't get drafted by Chicago, NE, or a NY team.
Pundits claim three main reasons to dismiss him as a top pick. One, he's 24 years old......two, he's not a running QB, which kind of makes point one moot........& three,he has a history of being injured. Well let's see....so does Lamar Jackson, Kirk Cousins, Garapolo, Tuatagavaloa, Stafford, Herbert, Burrow, Murray, Watson, Jones, etc.......no one is immune from getting injured in the NFL.
It would be better for him to go mid-first round than to one of the bad teams drafting early, ie hope you don't get drafted by Chicago, NE, or a NY team.
Ourlads grades him to go in rounds 3 - 4. I'd like to see him go to Atlanta.
Ourlads grades him to go in rounds 3 - 4. I'd like to see him go to Atlanta.
@WISEGUY36
That has to be old material......like last year. As bad as some of these mock drafts are, I don't see any left that have him outside the 1st round.
@pcollins
Chicago is sitting pretty for this draft, & I'll bet you're right about them trading down outta the #1 pick. But Fields isn't fine. If they pay him the going rate for 2nd QB contracts they'll be outside the playoffs for another long stretch. My guess is they'll trade down & hope to pick up Nix near the end of the 1st round.
@WISEGUY36
That has to be old material......like last year. As bad as some of these mock drafts are, I don't see any left that have him outside the 1st round.
@pcollins
Chicago is sitting pretty for this draft, & I'll bet you're right about them trading down outta the #1 pick. But Fields isn't fine. If they pay him the going rate for 2nd QB contracts they'll be outside the playoffs for another long stretch. My guess is they'll trade down & hope to pick up Nix near the end of the 1st round.
Think I'll let the NFL GM's and Head Coaches decide whether he merits a
first round grade or not. He's got the Championship game and the
Combine to convince them. He's had an outstanding college career.
Think I'll let the NFL GM's and Head Coaches decide whether he merits a
first round grade or not. He's got the Championship game and the
Combine to convince them. He's had an outstanding college career.
Penix being age 24 makes him a more experienced qb and he sure does look the part.
Injuries aside, he has been playing college football for 6 years. I don't see a downside to his age, in fact there is more value there. He has had 6 years to develop his skillset.
Most QBs never end up playing into their 40s anyways so the age argument against him is moot anyways. If a team can get 10+ good years out of Penix he would absolutely be worth a top 5 pick if not the #1 overall.
When he goes into the nfl he will be on a rookie deal just like everybody else. Rather have a QB with the potential to be good in year 1 than to waste years trying to develop them.
A running QB playing in the nfl is just one hit away from suffering a season/career ending injury. It is much safer to draft a pocket passer. In most cases a QB that runs alot is trying to compensate for not being a good passer.
*Bryce Young is not nfl ready. He may end up being a good QB down the line but it may take another 2-3 years for him to develop. Plus the Panthers roster is terrible. He would have been better drafted elsewhere.
Penix being age 24 makes him a more experienced qb and he sure does look the part.
Injuries aside, he has been playing college football for 6 years. I don't see a downside to his age, in fact there is more value there. He has had 6 years to develop his skillset.
Most QBs never end up playing into their 40s anyways so the age argument against him is moot anyways. If a team can get 10+ good years out of Penix he would absolutely be worth a top 5 pick if not the #1 overall.
When he goes into the nfl he will be on a rookie deal just like everybody else. Rather have a QB with the potential to be good in year 1 than to waste years trying to develop them.
A running QB playing in the nfl is just one hit away from suffering a season/career ending injury. It is much safer to draft a pocket passer. In most cases a QB that runs alot is trying to compensate for not being a good passer.
*Bryce Young is not nfl ready. He may end up being a good QB down the line but it may take another 2-3 years for him to develop. Plus the Panthers roster is terrible. He would have been better drafted elsewhere.
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