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States with highest murder rate and crime rates, yet Trumpy is sending the military
in Politics @packersbackers This is anecdotal. I understand his perspective on empathy for people who commit crime, but he has a duty to protect the citizens he serves from repeat offenders no doubt. So throwing criminals in jail is a starter according to you. There are many urban US cities that throw criminals in jail and don't share this mayor's perspective on that matter. Let's go with more in-depth analysis of the failed "liberal" policies and what you personally would replace them with. For me, urban cities should invest tax money into low economic areas to find ways to bolster economic growth. Opportunities lower crime and will break the cycle of hopelessness. |
cd329 | 114 |
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States with highest murder rate and crime rates, yet Trumpy is sending the military
in Politics @packersbackers I think you need to be specific in what policies you are referring to. To make blanket statements leaves a lot to ascertain what you're getting at. I don't want to assume your thoughts, but it does seem that people on the right side of the aisle believe there is a one size fits all to solution to everything. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. |
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States with highest murder rate and crime rates, yet Trumpy is sending the military
in Politics Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: And that's " society's problem " , isn't it ? Yours is a classic reply from the left w no real solution. You want to give people opportunities and direction once they've become criminals. That's often times too late. The core of the problem is that inner-city youth grow up w no dad around, and only a baby-momma to raise them. Sorry, but Dem policies encourage split families w welfare support for the baby momma. There is plenty of data to support that welfare program "" keep "" families poor, with no incentive to better their lives. So, for once, I'd like to see some real "pro active" solutions from the left to solve " society's problem " The solutions aren't all that difficult to figure out. Putting forward the political will is.Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country. Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas? More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction. Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction? Yes it is society's problem and I did provide solutions. You might be too overzealous to read in between the lines. First and foremost, yes you are correct in stating that once they crossed the threshold into criminality, it is too late. As for your crass stereotypical statements, there was a long line of events that led to this but I doubt you're ready or willing to hear that. The solution going forward is to invest in these communities and provide opportunities to build real skills to allow them to develop it further. People don't turn too criminality because it's joyous, they usually do it out of desperation and ignorance. Human beings love to make issues more complicated than it actually is. If people have honest work and the skills to work them, they will absolutely go that route over criminality. |
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States with highest murder rate and crime rates, yet Trumpy is sending the military
in Politics Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country. Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas? More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction. Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction? |
cd329 | 114 |
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Where is the neither option? |
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:
are getting this country back for true Americans. This administration has over 3 years left to prove it. If you click your heels three times, it has a chance to come true. |
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: "They created this mental monster" Absent 8 years of Obama, stealing the nomination from Bernie, and running Hillary there would have been no Trump presidency. I would argue it was Obama's slight at 'White House Correspondents' Dinner' that actually created what you see as a monster. This is a very good point. Hillary lost because she was mired in scandals. Her inability to connect with voters thinking DJT was a pushover was also a huge miscalculation. Dont forgot thou, she had a nice lead until Comey released all that email stuff actually helping trump to win. If that wasnt released, hillary wins and trump would be in new york right now robbing contractors still The Comey surprise definitely had a factor in her loss no doubt. If she would have worked harder and not underestimated Trump, the Comey surprise wouldn't have the impact it did. |
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It has started. Pretext to authoritarianism: Trump demands Republicans ‘kill’ the bipartisan bill that would give journalists greater protections. More authoritarian insanity and destruction likely!
in Politics Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
The supreme court is totally playing their cards all wrong with trump. They must believe that if they keep giving trump more and more power they will all be part of the trump family. They dont understand that trump uses everybody and when he gets everything he wants from the supreme court, he will throw them under the bus and say the country no longer needs a supreme court, he will handle the function of the supreme court. Thats day for sure is coming and these justices are too blind to see the trump train is gonna run them right over. The next democratic president needs to be bold! Expand the supreme courts and really work toward strengthening the guard rails of this country. What Trump is doing now is an utter disgrace and needs to be reigned in for the future of the US! |
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
@kagakuotoko As demonstrated, factually inaccurate. Smear: 2. damage the reputation of (someone) by false accusations; slander. "someone was trying to smear her by faking letters" Your ignorance of language isn't a personal problem on my part. In your case, I believe projection is strong. OK bro, then I would have been boxed for a personal insult to another member if that were the case... but that being said, I see you decided to engage in ad hominem now instead of rebutting my points. |
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
"They created this mental monster" Absent 8 years of Obama, stealing the nomination from Bernie, and running Hillary there would have been no Trump presidency. I would argue it was Obama's slight at 'White House Correspondents' Dinner' that actually created what you see as a monster. This is a very good point. Hillary lost because she was mired in scandals. Her inability to connect with voters thinking DJT was a pushover was also a huge miscalculation. |
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@unplucked_gem If you take it as a smear, that sounds like a personal problem. It is simply what I was able to ascertain for the post you made. You shared an anecdote and extrapolated your own thoughts that less qualified people were given jobs due to political correctness. I cannot wrap my head around it but it makes sense to you, so it is what it is. People do make bad hires, but it does not have to do with pressure of hiring unqualified candidates to be politically correct... in fact I would go as far to say it's the opposite but I have already explained that ad nauseum in my previous post. Your comment about who controls the purse strings makes no sense. The US is not a vacuum, we have a global economy. If the US doesn't adapt, it will simply be die off and be cast aside. The clinging to the old ways without evolving is the reason why the US is in the position it is in today. |
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
I run a business to help other businesses and I can tell you that each and every business that we have helped struggled mightily with trying to hire diversity when the California laws came out. I mean it was a struggle. We work with hundreds of business owners and their struggles were real. Not just hiring good candidates, but sometimes even trying to find those that would even be interested. Often times the candidate pools were so bleak they would just hire anyone that fit the criteria to meet the compliance factors. It was not because they were the most qualified or the best candidate at all. Sometimes it was simply just because they need a seat filler to maintain compliance. That's sad if you ask me because I know that some of these businesses struggled with those that they felt obligated to hire versus those that may have been more qualified to hire. There is some truth to what CK was trying to explain about the United Airlines situation. Hiring because the government or legislation tells you that you have to rather than who you feel best fits your organization. I can't name one business owner or executive that our company was involved in that was not struggling to comply with this demand and none of them were unhappy to see this overruled. And mind you, being in California we work with all races and nationalities. I would say the majority of the owners we work with are Hispanic, but the diversity is already there. A lot owners prefer to hire family because they are generally more trusted. Just my experience. I don't know what industry your business falls into but I do know you will always get what you pay for. There are plenty of people to fill roles if the conditions are right. That being said, I know the purpose of business is to make money. So finding that balance between taking care of your employee and your business is tough. In my experience, business owners like to harp about noone wanting to work while offering poor pay and benefits. If you offer poor pay and benefits, it sounds to me as the business owner needs to work harder to provide conditions that entice people to want to work for you. Maybe having family help out is the way to go because they will probably be willing to put up with that subpar conditions for the sake of the family depending on the relationship. |
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
First hand hearsay from childhood friend who works for either Boeing, Aerospace, or Lockheed and does hiring. I am given a stack of resumes from HR to assess candidates. After Trump came in, the stack included different and more candidates. While admittedly hearsay this is a lifelong friend who doesn't follow, watch, or engage in politics who I have no reason to disbelieve. He was also concerned about DOGE and said they were mandated to hire as much as possible before it happened. So stacking my own personal experiences from my own trusted acquaintance vs. Third's uncited general speak, I will go with in the history of the US the occurrence of less qualified people being given jobs for the purpose of political correctness has happened and thus cannot be a myth by definition. Again, completely anecdotally. The confirmation bias is strong within you. You atleast admit. On what planet would hiring unqualified individuals for a role be beneficial? Hint: It never would... I am sorry to tell you, but the real unqualified people are typically the ones that are screaming about how unfair DEI is. DEI wouldn't be needed if people DID hire based on meritocracy. The ones that created the atmosphere for DEI are the ones that kept hiring "mediocre" people that looked like them and refused to give the merit based person that didn't look like them, the job. Maybe "mediocre" people should up their game and evolve instead of whining about how they can't get a job anymore based on how they look like back in the good ole' days. In the end, this whining will amount to nothing because things are going to change whether people cry or not. Capitalism only cares how more money can be made, not whether people hate DEI or not. |
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True meritocracy would not require DEI. There would be no need for marginalized people months either if people knew how to get along. Our society, especially in America is catered to lowest common denominator. If people evolved, our society would flourish but alas it's not the case because people are delusional into thinking they are something they are not. |
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That Trump/Erdogan clip... jfc |
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Quote Originally Posted by Rowdie22:
Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper: @Rowdie22 so you dont think the comment on black pilots was racist. You don't think his comments about civil rights was racist. You dont think his comments about black women was racist. You don't think his comments on mlk was racist. Nothing about gays and trans Palestinians run down the line. All taken out of context I guess NO Racism is subjective. What a world we live in. I bet you think Loomer's comments weren't either? |
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Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
@Rowdie22 so you dont think the comment on black pilots was racist. You don't think his comments about civil rights was racist. You dont think his comments about black women was racist. You don't think his comments on mlk was racist. Nothing about gays and trans Palestinians run down the line. All taken out of context I guess CK just googled facts and repeated them. If they were "racist" that's just facts don't care about your feelings... /s I can't believe the pretzels people twist themselves into. CK was allowed to be racist, and people are allowed to listen to him and agree. You are not going to convince the masses that CK was something he wasn't and quite frankly it doesn't matter. The pushback is because people know being a racist is abhorrent and don't want that stain on them or anything they associate with. Stand on your ten toes and stop gas-lighting people!
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Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
No kind of racism deserves any kind of respect ! - No matter if they hide it or not - if anyone feel they need to kick down on other people based on their race, gender or sexual orientation (to feel like they are something extraordinary) - they are fucking losers that need to get their own life to worry about I agree. As I stated, people like to gaslight people that they are not racist when they are indeed racist. I am not condoning the racist part but I can respect a person more for being honest instead of a gas-lighter. |
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
@kagakuotoko Sad that many Charlie Kirk supporters don't realize what he actually believes. They deny that he is racist despite his history of hateful rhetoric toward black women, LGBTQ people, muslims and immigrants of color. Absurd to celebrate his prejudices and delusional to compare him to Jesus. Many people live in a Fox news bubble or with very little news consumption. Some prefer to believe lies instead of the truth. But ignorance is not bliss. You can just listen to a few videos and find abhorrent rhetoric being spewed by CK. It’s really insulting to gaslight people into believing it’s anything else. The reality is, they know it’s frowned upon to be a racist so they have to deflect or risk the consequences of their beliefs. I say, skip that nonsense and say it with your chest! Freedom of speech! I have more respect for honest haters versus the mealy mouthed pretenders! |
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