I hate the way they keep changing the rules and the new kickoff rules are a joke. They made it so no one wants to return now they think theyll encourage it by having these new rules you can't move til the ball is touched by a player or the ground, you set up in a 'landing zone'. But touchbacks now start at the 30. And no fair catches allowed So how is that going to encourage returns? I guess they think maybe teams will stop trying to kick out of the end zone to avoid touchbacks?
I really don't like how you have to inform the refs that you are onside kicking either. One of the coolest plays is when a coach takes a gamble to start the game or half with an onside.
I hate the way they keep changing the rules and the new kickoff rules are a joke. They made it so no one wants to return now they think theyll encourage it by having these new rules you can't move til the ball is touched by a player or the ground, you set up in a 'landing zone'. But touchbacks now start at the 30. And no fair catches allowed So how is that going to encourage returns? I guess they think maybe teams will stop trying to kick out of the end zone to avoid touchbacks?
I really don't like how you have to inform the refs that you are onside kicking either. One of the coolest plays is when a coach takes a gamble to start the game or half with an onside.
Kicker will be by himself. The kicker will set up the ball at his own 35-yard line and after kicking it, he won't be able to cross midfield until the ball is in play. The ball will be considered in play if the returner catches it or if the ball hits the ground in the landing zone or if the ball gets to the end zone.
Coverage team will be lined up together. The other 10 players on the kicking team will be lining up at the receiving team's 40-yard line. Each player has to have at least one foot on the 40 before the play can start. Also, the kicking team has to have five players on each side of ball, so they won't be able to load up to one side.
As for the receiving team, their setup will be slightly different.
Most of the receiving team will be at the 35-yard line. The receiving team has a 5-yard setup zone that runs from its own 30 to its 35-yard line. Seven players from the receiving team must have their foot on the 35-yard line. The receiving team can also have two more players who are in the setup zone, but who aren't touching the 35-yard line. Those two players will be lined up outside the hashes.
Receiving team can have two returners. The receiving team can put one or two returners back to field the football, but if they decide to utilize just one returner, then the extra player will have to line up in the set-up zone between the 30- and 35-yard line.
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Kicker will be by himself. The kicker will set up the ball at his own 35-yard line and after kicking it, he won't be able to cross midfield until the ball is in play. The ball will be considered in play if the returner catches it or if the ball hits the ground in the landing zone or if the ball gets to the end zone.
Coverage team will be lined up together. The other 10 players on the kicking team will be lining up at the receiving team's 40-yard line. Each player has to have at least one foot on the 40 before the play can start. Also, the kicking team has to have five players on each side of ball, so they won't be able to load up to one side.
As for the receiving team, their setup will be slightly different.
Most of the receiving team will be at the 35-yard line. The receiving team has a 5-yard setup zone that runs from its own 30 to its 35-yard line. Seven players from the receiving team must have their foot on the 35-yard line. The receiving team can also have two more players who are in the setup zone, but who aren't touching the 35-yard line. Those two players will be lined up outside the hashes.
Receiving team can have two returners. The receiving team can put one or two returners back to field the football, but if they decide to utilize just one returner, then the extra player will have to line up in the set-up zone between the 30- and 35-yard line.
For a kickoff after a safety, the formations above will stay the same, The only thing that will change will be where the kicker lines up. After a safety, the kicker will be required to kick off from his own 20. If a ball goes out of bounds on this kick, the receiving team will get the ball at the kicking team's 45-yard line.
If there are any penalties on the kickoff, the kicker will be the only one who moves, everyone else will line up in their same spot.
Now that we have the kickoff and return formations out of the way, let's get to the next part of the rule: The landing zone.
What is the landing zone? This is the part of the field that's between the receiving team's goal line and the receiving team's 20-yard line. The kickoff coverage team and the blockers on the receiving team CAN'T MOVE until the football has either been fielded by a returner or touches the ground in the landing zone.
No fair catches. If the kickoff is caught on the fly in the landing zone, then there will definitely be a return, because fair catches are prohibited under the new proposal.
The new rule will also add three different types of touchbacks and this is where things get kind of confusing, so you're definitely going to want to pay attention here.
Touchback at the 40-yard line. If the kickoff doesn't make it past the return team's 20-yard line, then the ball is considered out of bounds and the return team will get possession at its own 40-yard line (or 25 yards from the spot of the kick). If the ball is kicked out of bounds, the receiving team will get the ball at its own 40 or the spot where the ball went out of bounds.
Touchback at the 30-yard line. If the ball is kicked into the end zone on the fly, then the receiving team gets a touchback at its own 30-yard line. This touchback also applies if the ball is kicked out of the back of the end zone. When the rule was originally proposed, this touchback was supposed to be at the 35, but it was tweaked over the weekend to make it the 30, according to NFL.com.
Touchback at the 20-yard line. If a ball hits the ground in the landing zone and then rolls into the end zone -- and doesn't get returned -- then the touchback will only go out to the 20.
These new touchback rules are in place to encourage more returns. The rule is essentially incentivizing kickers to kick a returnable ball. If they have a ball go in the end zone on the fly, the receiving team gets a touchback at the 30, which wouldn't be ideal for the kicking team.
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For a kickoff after a safety, the formations above will stay the same, The only thing that will change will be where the kicker lines up. After a safety, the kicker will be required to kick off from his own 20. If a ball goes out of bounds on this kick, the receiving team will get the ball at the kicking team's 45-yard line.
If there are any penalties on the kickoff, the kicker will be the only one who moves, everyone else will line up in their same spot.
Now that we have the kickoff and return formations out of the way, let's get to the next part of the rule: The landing zone.
What is the landing zone? This is the part of the field that's between the receiving team's goal line and the receiving team's 20-yard line. The kickoff coverage team and the blockers on the receiving team CAN'T MOVE until the football has either been fielded by a returner or touches the ground in the landing zone.
No fair catches. If the kickoff is caught on the fly in the landing zone, then there will definitely be a return, because fair catches are prohibited under the new proposal.
The new rule will also add three different types of touchbacks and this is where things get kind of confusing, so you're definitely going to want to pay attention here.
Touchback at the 40-yard line. If the kickoff doesn't make it past the return team's 20-yard line, then the ball is considered out of bounds and the return team will get possession at its own 40-yard line (or 25 yards from the spot of the kick). If the ball is kicked out of bounds, the receiving team will get the ball at its own 40 or the spot where the ball went out of bounds.
Touchback at the 30-yard line. If the ball is kicked into the end zone on the fly, then the receiving team gets a touchback at its own 30-yard line. This touchback also applies if the ball is kicked out of the back of the end zone. When the rule was originally proposed, this touchback was supposed to be at the 35, but it was tweaked over the weekend to make it the 30, according to NFL.com.
Touchback at the 20-yard line. If a ball hits the ground in the landing zone and then rolls into the end zone -- and doesn't get returned -- then the touchback will only go out to the 20.
These new touchback rules are in place to encourage more returns. The rule is essentially incentivizing kickers to kick a returnable ball. If they have a ball go in the end zone on the fly, the receiving team gets a touchback at the 30, which wouldn't be ideal for the kicking team.
With the new kickoff rule passing, that means the NFL will also be getting a new onside kick. Since the kickoff HAS to make it to the receiving team's 20-yard line to be considered in play, that means the NFL's previous onside kick rule can't be used.
So how do you fix that? Under the new rule, onside kicks will only be allowed in the fourth quarter, and only if a team is trailing. Also, the team that wants to attempt the onside kick will have to "declare" that it's trying it. This will eliminate the surprise onside kick.
Finally, if you're still confused about any of this, you can check out this video that the NFL put together on the new rule.
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With the new kickoff rule passing, that means the NFL will also be getting a new onside kick. Since the kickoff HAS to make it to the receiving team's 20-yard line to be considered in play, that means the NFL's previous onside kick rule can't be used.
So how do you fix that? Under the new rule, onside kicks will only be allowed in the fourth quarter, and only if a team is trailing. Also, the team that wants to attempt the onside kick will have to "declare" that it's trying it. This will eliminate the surprise onside kick.
Finally, if you're still confused about any of this, you can check out this video that the NFL put together on the new rule.
@ABooksNightmare Think one of us mis-read I am seeing if the kicking team kicks it into the end zone it goes to the KICKING teams 35 yard-line (basically Field goal range) Which is insane but I guess...Hopefully I read wrong info and not you
You did... If kicked into the end zone brought out to the 30 yd line .. Return teams 30 yd line..
@ABooksNightmare Think one of us mis-read I am seeing if the kicking team kicks it into the end zone it goes to the KICKING teams 35 yard-line (basically Field goal range) Which is insane but I guess...Hopefully I read wrong info and not you
You did... If kicked into the end zone brought out to the 30 yd line .. Return teams 30 yd line..
I just copied and pasted from an article that CBS Sports had...they are making this shit confusing with all the tinkering....just go back to the old rules and leave be...this shit has gimmick written all over it and trying to educate teams. staff and personnel on these new changes is a joke...if it's confusing to read imagine how confusing it will be to coach, execute and referee
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I just copied and pasted from an article that CBS Sports had...they are making this shit confusing with all the tinkering....just go back to the old rules and leave be...this shit has gimmick written all over it and trying to educate teams. staff and personnel on these new changes is a joke...if it's confusing to read imagine how confusing it will be to coach, execute and referee
Ya sorry buddy had a typo in his article I read..cheaper site of course lol
Touch back thru the endzone was originally to the receiving teams 35 (he had kicking team in his article)...but this week they tweaked it to 30...
I guess the kicker will aim for the 10 yard line or deeper and if it goes for touch back to the 30 oh well....or screw the risk of a return and still kick touchbacks..
Interesting to see how easy/hard the tackling is at slower speeds. But with the returner still getting a decent head of steam
Its on a 1-year trial run as well. Not permanent yet
Ya sorry buddy had a typo in his article I read..cheaper site of course lol
Touch back thru the endzone was originally to the receiving teams 35 (he had kicking team in his article)...but this week they tweaked it to 30...
I guess the kicker will aim for the 10 yard line or deeper and if it goes for touch back to the 30 oh well....or screw the risk of a return and still kick touchbacks..
Interesting to see how easy/hard the tackling is at slower speeds. But with the returner still getting a decent head of steam
Its on a 1-year trial run as well. Not permanent yet
"Only the kicker and two returners will be allowed to move until the balls hit the ground or is touched by a returner inside the 20. Because of the reduced space and time, players won't be going at full running speed and are less likely to incur serious injuries when they collide with their opponents."
Players' health is more important than exciting but dangerous kickoffs with players colliding at high speeds.
"Only the kicker and two returners will be allowed to move until the balls hit the ground or is touched by a returner inside the 20. Because of the reduced space and time, players won't be going at full running speed and are less likely to incur serious injuries when they collide with their opponents."
Players' health is more important than exciting but dangerous kickoffs with players colliding at high speeds.
was planning to go very large units and tail A KNOWN winner (vanzack) this season...NOW WITH NEW RULES AM VERY CONCERNED.......good luck to all and hope the good guys figure out the new shit sooner than later....ALMOST DID THIS LAST YEAR BUT HE HAD AN 0-5 DAY EARLY IN THE SEASON THAT SCARED ME OFF THE LARGE RISK IDEA......
was planning to go very large units and tail A KNOWN winner (vanzack) this season...NOW WITH NEW RULES AM VERY CONCERNED.......good luck to all and hope the good guys figure out the new shit sooner than later....ALMOST DID THIS LAST YEAR BUT HE HAD AN 0-5 DAY EARLY IN THE SEASON THAT SCARED ME OFF THE LARGE RISK IDEA......
if you know of any guys who have documented winning seasons in the nfl last 3 years in row...speak up am all ears....that what forums are about....thanks....side note i hope i remember the running dogs system in college bowl games next year as well...
if you know of any guys who have documented winning seasons in the nfl last 3 years in row...speak up am all ears....that what forums are about....thanks....side note i hope i remember the running dogs system in college bowl games next year as well...
KO from the 30 yard line but line up the rec. team at the 35 and the kicking team 5 yards away at the 40 like they propose.
No movement allowed until the ball is either touched or lands inside the 20 yard line or end zone.
This will do exactly what the NFL wants all of a sudden it seems after wanting to restrict KO returns for many years + reduce injuries due to the speed of the contacts that will now be slightly reduced due to the starting positions of the players.
All the rest of the rules are a dogs breakfast + confusing. It is near impossible to believe that over 24 owners want this well huge buyers remorse will overtake them from near day 1 this all starts.
Watch this sheeet show in the preseason + reg. season by all involved coaches, players + esp. refs who will be gathered around talking after a KO for many minutes with huge cascades of boos raining down on them waiting for instructions in their ear from the home moron office.
I am 99.9% this rule will either be eliminated or hugely tweaked after this season.
This is not rocket science but the dopes at the NFL so concerned about injuries have screwed this one up royally like no other rule ever by a mile.
One last thing since they adopted this other league's rule they should have also used the no onside kick but the 15 yard to gain rule from their own 20 yard line to keep the ball after a score. I have talked in the last 2 years about that to 30-40 people and i am yet to find 1.....1 who does not like it compared to what is currently being used and most like it even over the old rule with the running start that was elim. a few years ago by the 5 beta capa's running the league.
KO from the 30 yard line but line up the rec. team at the 35 and the kicking team 5 yards away at the 40 like they propose.
No movement allowed until the ball is either touched or lands inside the 20 yard line or end zone.
This will do exactly what the NFL wants all of a sudden it seems after wanting to restrict KO returns for many years + reduce injuries due to the speed of the contacts that will now be slightly reduced due to the starting positions of the players.
All the rest of the rules are a dogs breakfast + confusing. It is near impossible to believe that over 24 owners want this well huge buyers remorse will overtake them from near day 1 this all starts.
Watch this sheeet show in the preseason + reg. season by all involved coaches, players + esp. refs who will be gathered around talking after a KO for many minutes with huge cascades of boos raining down on them waiting for instructions in their ear from the home moron office.
I am 99.9% this rule will either be eliminated or hugely tweaked after this season.
This is not rocket science but the dopes at the NFL so concerned about injuries have screwed this one up royally like no other rule ever by a mile.
One last thing since they adopted this other league's rule they should have also used the no onside kick but the 15 yard to gain rule from their own 20 yard line to keep the ball after a score. I have talked in the last 2 years about that to 30-40 people and i am yet to find 1.....1 who does not like it compared to what is currently being used and most like it even over the old rule with the running start that was elim. a few years ago by the 5 beta capa's running the league.
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