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@UNIMAN

 Take care of yourself first and be the better member instead of deflecting and making excuses. Any member or mod can post in any area of the site, you need to find a better narrative than blurry lines and own your actions instead of blame and deflect.

@UNIMAN

 As mods we attempt to stop excesses of the rules and try to keep spammers out etc and that is all mods do. Your never ending partisan complaint has no relevance because mods can post and have views just like you. I am not one sided at all I would say out of all the posters in this area I am the most moderate by far. You take issue because when you and others break the rules there is recourse and you correlate recourse with partisan and there is your flaw. You can draw correlation to partisan and rule breaking though that 100% is completely true. One group that seems to be of a political position has a much greater instance of rule breaking. I never ever see your side take responsibility for the posts made for the trolling stalking combative rule breaking it never happens. Every time like you just did you fall back on the flimsy mod card and partisan complaining. This is as consistent as Trumps childish social media posts, both are very consistent. 

It is also interesting when others do break the rules and are boxed, the help section whining and temper tantrum throwing, the personal attacking insults and idiotic grade school threads in the box do not happen it never does. The correlation between infractions of one group, complaint and temper tantrum of that same group versus the other is blaringly stark and believe me the site knows what is going on with all you members here so the attempts to soil a mod or cry in the help section cannot work, all mods have proof and history for all decisions made.

Instead of fallback rollover whining just keep the rules and if you break the rules just own up on what happens because of it and try to do better going forward.

@cd329

 Yup this is the point not if one politician would have been a terrible president vs Trump who IS a terrible president it is the person and the awful display of any human decency that he obviously has none of.

Congress should be censuring this clown every single freaking day for the sewer brain that Trump is.

@cd329

 All you have to do is go on facebook and look at local news coverage posts. My feed gets some local channel news nothing partisan just posting whatever is going on in the valley and one network posted the story then go and read the comments and it is mind blowing there are so many people out there that excuse this behavior and are blind partisan twits that no matter what this bloated dope does they support it and excuse it due to him forwarding their political agenda. In many instances society is just a mess and I have to remember that there are reasonable people out there not these cold blind morons who selfishly support such a horrible person that Trump is.

@ABooksNightmare

 What kind of a response is that? Trump is a trash mouth and the dems are to blame because of a politician who was picked to run against him?

What does that have to do with the near daily throw up he spews and without recourse? We can name a multitude of incidents where Trump is just a big fat disgusting pig from his own words and you say the dems are to blame for running Harris?

At some point people need to stand up to this fascist and there should be recourse for disgusting abhorrent social media posts that he makes. The sewer mouth in chief continues to show how classless and obtuse he is.

How would Trump and the TNC clan react if this happened to the lion killer DJT Jr and his family and a LIB threw out trashy comments like we saw today?

Silence from the TNC idiots is almost as bad as the trash from the zero ego dictator to me.

@cd329

 You could comb through his posts and probably find it but its not worth your time and angst, it is obvious he is partisan and likes to get you upset. There are several members here and gone who like pushing buttons but you can control if you allow it to impact you or not. I dont go with the extreme angle you do because extremes in either direction do not make for conversation or education. When I read intentional repetitive partisan stuff it is not educational or entertaining and that is in both directions. 

If a member has a history of baiting and playing word games with you and there is not any sense of sincere effort to make good conversation I would ignore it and try to find what does and not have a few partisan members push you into reactions and replies that are reactive and playing into their schemes.

@UNIMAN

 So do you lead by example or by partisan baiting? Yeah you carry on for pages about the media about libs dems walz whatever and then you play pity when someone comments on a bizarre item you post.

Shock....fraud in a red state, who would have thought? I would have thought and said it multiple times if you were ever paying attention.

As to you and CD please take your fighting to the box, it would be better if you both ignored each other because you both are unable to have reasonable interaction and if you cannot be reasonable then either ignore each other or continue in the only area of the site we allow.

Not sure what your reply to me has to do with anything I have said this entire thread.

My questions and comments are to direct some and especially YOU to the real point this thread should be about. To you and Mugg it is all partisan Walz DEM LIB MEDIA blame, you have done pretty much nothing else here and yet I am over and over redirecting this clown show to what matters more and the truth about fraud including this one and ANY fraud then you deflect and turn everything partisan. Even your above reply is just partisan nothing finger pointing and I see zero value in your approach especially with your tax dollar comment.

Do you want to combat fraud or just partisan poke? My initial question was 100% spot on and you answered it the same way you answer most everything and shift the narrative back to partisan and away from the important matter which in this case is fraud.

Shocking...a red state has FRAUD? Nooooooooo way how is this humanly possible?

@UNIMAN

 Actually I do not see the "problem" as being dem vs repub or racism or touchy feely as you describe. I see the problem that politicians are not auditors or investigators so who the crap cares what party the politician is or if one or five or ten politicians are partisan, this does not in any way take a step towards or away from catching and proving fraud. 

The way to prove fraud is to have sufficient tools and resources to CATCH fraud and to investigate and prove it, those resources are NOT politicians and are not partisan, they are the little guys making median income that Musk wanted to fire the whole lot because of a lack of understanding of need for these exact types of people. So do you want low rate taxes or do you want to fund and equip government so they can have a remote shot at stopping fraud?

Fraud isnt only this instance, fraud exists due to our flawed human nature and exists in any and every opportunity. I do not see how this or any fraud can be stopped without an exponentially greater investment and infrastructure which costs a ton of money and would mean higher taxes and a huge commitment both initially and ongoing.

So educate me on that reply since you made it. What do you mean about what libs are all about? His reply is that fraud is non-partisan and why not focus on the actual issue versus deflect?

What  exactly was LIB in his reply that would give you a reply as you made (and pretty much only make)? Why are you so completely unable to discuss the real issue and problem, you are so partisan focused that it means you really add no value towards discussion on topics and content.

Why do we need a thousand pics and notarized statements or video of Trump and his involvement? His entire braggart life history proves he fits this scheme perfectly, outside Andy there is not a more classless obnoxious womanizing schmuck I can think of that has any connection with Epstein than Trump. Is it that painful for the TNC zealots to just stop denying what we all know and just admit even though Trump is hip deep and complicit from his actions his entire adult life and that no matter what Trump does the zealots will still look the other way and support him because the reality is those that even now that try to claim he was not involved are either full on morons or are just partisan blankie doobies and no level of proof will change their position.

Its akin to saying that Trump does not eat two McDonalds products at the same time because there is no video or photo of him doing it even though multiple people have seen him do it...without that video or photo you can lie your butt off and deflect rather than take ownership of who you are.

Yeah Trump was just shooting pool and slurping drinks with the guy over and over and over and over, the condoms and birthday card are all lies.

The government does not have a top skilled audit framework on any level so that is local state or national. It is not all that difficult to defraud the government because there are weak if any systems of checks and balances let alone extensive comprehensive audit and fraud investigation programs in place.

Do you want low taxes and a skeleton governmental system running on Windows 2000 or do you want to pay current market rates for the technology and manpower that could make a small dent into the black hole of governmental fraud?

My local government seems quite progressive and the city council are professionals with experience and dedication but they get ripped off all the time and it has zero to do with what party they belong to or how snazzy they dress or if they can go on tv and make a media sound bite. The real engine behind fraud prevention and prosecution is not the gov or the head of a council it is the average guy making 50k a year who has to audit and investigate every single participant in any government program, those are the people Musk was targeting to cut and get rid of the little guy who works hard and might be under skilled and lacking the technology to make a meaningful impact but those people are the ones we need more of if you REALLY want to stop fraud.

Its easy to say Walz and the DEMS are to blame then you wonder why fraud never ends its because we act like zombie sheep not really seeking to make things better just seeking to blame a political party or individual.

@THEMUGG

 I dont really care about who the politician is or the voting results of a state or city to form a conclusion. It is so much more simple than all this partisan stuff. The core bottom line fact is that the government is inefficient, ill equipped, technologically behind the curve and not at all prepared for dealing with fraud in any time frame but for sure in real time.

Want to know why that is? You have idiots like Musk who think government workers are lazy and we have too many of them so lets fire them all when the exact opposite is true. I do not think the government is up to date or equipped for remotely being in front of technology and schemes that fraudsters use to take advantage of any situation. That is why above I mentioned other examples of fraud, this isnt the first it is not even close to the worst and it wont be the last. We have fraud in every possible situation where the government is involved and that goes to every single instance including income tax, disability, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, stimmy benefits and checks, mortgages, financial governance you can go on and on and on.

So I have absolutely no reason and see no value in this partisan nonsense, you want to make it partisan I want to make things better for society not blame Walz or some political party. Walz is not personally equipped to make Minny more skilled to detect and stop fraud than Trump or that dope Tubberville or the clowns down here or anywhere.

Why focus on partisan divide instead of working towards improvement and bringing society together?

@UNIMAN

 Please review my words before you tell me what my words were. I asked what precisely bothered you or anyone, read above what I said before speaking inaccurately. I asked is it the fraud is it the color is it nationality is it partisan what is it exactly?

I do the opposite of what you just claimed, I do not concern with color or location or religion or politics but I know MANY here do focus on the wrong things to make a political partisan point.

@UNIMAN

 Oh I have decided and it is not from an instance of brown color unlike you who draws sweeping generalities based on singular incidents. What you are describing is human nature and in this case it is a skin color allegedly but to me the color of the skin or nationality means nothing because for every one brown skin instance there are one and more of white skin that is just basic statistical observation.

You can focus on the skin color or what silly political party they belong to I am not motivated to be superficial and remedial in my conclusions and thus my reply exactly above yours to precise context of your retort.

@THEMUGG

 Post 91 Mugg...who made that reply? who admittedly created a thread(s) with the sole purpose of partisan complaining, was that me or was that you?

I enjoy conversation and discussion, I focus more onto the topic and the person versus the political group they belong to. Ive been critical of Hills, Biden, Trump, pretty much all sides.

The biggest differentiator from me to you and most here is I make social decisions based on the greatest social good for those who have the least and I keep my religious views in my house and I do not take them into my social and political decision making. My comments and conclusions are singularly about the greatest social good even if I might not share the need or purpose of that position. 

Care to elaborate on yet another false flag claim from you with that reply? It is difficult to make positive or at least non partisan discussion with you because you seem fully incapable of doing so. This thread and many others of yours is proof of that. I came into the thread seeking topical discussion and you have done absolutely NOTHING with regard to the subject topic or repeated attempts to start a topical discussion, but you sure love those partisan retorts and finger pointing. Care to try again but actually make discussion of the topic you started?

@spottie2935

 Ok I guess I will try not to lose my mind whatever that means. I made the comment so you do not keep making them, this is not the first time. You are a long term member and letting you know why was hopefully so this does not happen for a fourth time.

Make sure to only have one account for using the site.

@THEMUGG

 Nothing but the same from you, pointing fingers at others to rationalize lousy partisan garbage. Why is it that you seem to never discuss content and only LIB DEM bashing and then get your feathers ruffled when called out on it?

Are you not a bit too old for the 6th grader excuse that others are worse so I can be lousy too? Who cares what others do, hold yourself to a standard above what you feel others do and that you trash all the time. Why make this thread when you have another to cry about the LIBS and then are completely unable to discuss the alleged fake thread title you created?

I would for the 100th time suggest if other members threads bother you to not enter them and to do your best to make solid contributions and create positive conversation, you seem incapable of doing much more than LIB whining for the last several years and you need something stronger than pointing partisan fingers to rationalize poor threads and replies.