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Another shooting today, what will the spin doctors have to say on this one?

@StumpTownStu

 You addressed ME and the way decisions are made and you paraphrased in a lie saying things that were NEVER said and that are untrue. Do not lie about me or create a narrative when the exact opposite is what I actually said and will keep saying. Your right vs left narrative is a lie and is created because you see things in a partisan fashion, i do not see things nor do most of the members on the left. I see the rules, I see member to member, I see lying and exaggeration, digs, combative member to member replies and narratives. This is the issue not what political group you agree with.

Again and hopefully for the last time, please do not lie about me or any member, do not create a false narrative by inaccurately paraphrasing something to be funny or to make a point. I said NONE of what you suggested, that is why I asked you to actually restate what I DID say...and notice you did not, notice you did the "leave me alone" route rather than admitting you lied and took another dig at me and you should not have.

Members who make negative comments or lie or are combative to another member are going to have issues, THIS is the conclusion you fail to admit and refuse to acknowledge. I hope you stop breaking the rules and in this example lie about what I said to form an inaccurate smear narrative about me.

@StumpTownStu

 This started from you lying about what I said to try and be humorous, I do not appreciate you lying about what my reply was and I hope you do not do this in the future.

If you do not want to be questioned then do not lie about others and take shots as you did towards me.

Then i do not need to address your lies and provocations and NO member should take shots at another and lie about them as you did about me.

@StumpTownStu

 You wrote inaccurate and slanderous things about me and then you are mad that I ask for what you meant and stand up for the lies you posted about me?

Why dont you summarize what I said in TRUTH...you brought it up so now I would ask that YOU summarize what I said about why some members get boxed more than others and what the measure is for making box/ban decisions. 

You cant lie and belittle what I said and then think there would not be a reply, I do not appreciate what you said and it is very inappropriate in addition it adds NO POSITIVE VALUE to the site.

Member to member lies and insults as you just did to me are why people get boxed or banned, this exact situation is against the rules and extremely inappropriate.

Ok so here is the original comment, which was made for what purpose? Was this made to add positive value and summarize what I said in a respectful way? No!

Where did I say that the reason conservatives were boxed was that the other side "snitches" and "dips out" and "drops dimes"?

That message is insulting, it is erroneous and is extremely combative adding absolutely NO value and I do not appreciate you referring to me using lies and trash like this.

@StumpTownStu

 There is no need to dramatize my simple question. Why do you complain about me asking for the purpose of a degrading remark made to me? Was there a good purpose for taking another shot at me in the original question? If you do not want a follow up question then do not include me in your insults and digs as you did there.

Not all that complicated.

@StumpTownStu

Read your message again, why did you refer to me in your message in that way? Was there value you were adding were you making good conversation or were you complaining?

You like to take shots at me then cry foul and claim that you are being picked on when that is not the case, what exactly was the purpose of your reply?

@StumpTownStu

 So what is the purpose for this crappy reply exactly? Are you even attempting to try and make for reasonable conversation or is it just a non-stop dig fest where when someone breaks the rules and has recourse that you complain about it?

The members who cry foul the most are those who are instigating member to member abuses, including obviously you here.

@THEMUGG

 Ok so is this the way you validate a crappy POTUS? Yeah Biden was a schmuck and many did not like him but was he regularly calling those who saw differently a fascist and that he HATED them? Did Biden have awful nicknames and put downs for the RNC politicians? 

Biden was a lousy president Ive said this many times but for all he was poor at, he held respect and leadership to the position that Trump is clearly unable to do. Trump is a selfish obtuse clown who seems completely unable to express a difference without a zero ego insult and put down. 

@StumpTownStu

This has also been explained how many times? If you feel a member has broken the rules then please report it and all of the mods and staff will check it out, THAT is how you go about dealing with someone who you feel is breaking the rules. 

Again it is quite simple and while many reports are viewed by the site and no action is taken, this is the route set up for that situation. Keep in mind that context, history and past interaction has impact on what the decision is but reporting a generality versus a direct specific member to member interaction will be seen with the post and very often a mod or staff will look at what led up to the comment and try to get the best understanding to properly handle the issue.

@ABooksNightmare

 I think what you find is that when the leader sets a standard for himself which is above reproach there are less instances of that person being called out. Most every other president that was white (unfortunately) was not called out to the degree Trump has and that is because they held themselves to a high standard for the position because they were elected to represent this country and all of the people and with that comes great responsibility and leadership. Trump does not hold himself to a higher standard, he has no standards for himself but expects similar media respect given to other presidents and leaders. He wants to be abusive, sexist, insulting, degrading and intimidating yet nobody is allowed to call him on his words and actions...those who challenge him are to be hunted down and prosecuted per HIS own words. This is the definition of a fascist (let alone the reach around on congress which goes against the constitution and that is also fascist).

When Trump holds himself to the highest standards with regards to the office and makes it about leadership and not about POWER and control then you might see the media change their tune. No he wants to send his project 2025 hunt dogs on those who disagree with him, he wants to spew hate and anger and then wonders why he is not respected. Who else in your lifetime has said the hundreds of insulting stupid things Trump says? Who says that he wishes a safe flight but only because HE is on the flight? Who says that women should tough it out and not use OTC pain meds when he got out of military service for a fake medical condition?

Trump deserves even more scrutiny and he really should leave office, he is a disgrace to the country and a very disgusting person.

100% correct...you insult or are combative directly with another member and you CAN and LIKELY will be boxed....yup this is exactly the point.

@StumpTownStu

 Key words you use...MEMBERS, how is this concept not understood? Your complaint is about non-member content like calling TRUMP a fascist, this is not breaking the rules of the site when within the parameters that the site rules list. 

Your message validates 100% all that which you complain about and find fault with me, MEMBER is the key word here, when you insult other members this is not allowed, the members who get boxed or banned are those who break the rules regarding MEMBER to MEMBER interaction, now there are parameters and measures for ANY content and that does not need to be explained it is listed and obvious so please do not insinuate something when you know precisely the point I am making.

I/we make decisions on MEMBER interactions most every single day and that is the issue you and many others are not grasping and I have no idea why you are perplexed, its listed right there in the rules and guidelines. The politics forum more than any other non box area has the most combative and derisive content and it is moderated accordingly.

I have no idea why you do not get this.

@Rush51

 Yeah the get rid of the mod who keeps the rule schtick that you fall back on instead of answering the DIRECT and specific question. There is nothing in the RULES of Covers that says a left leaning member cannot call DJT a fascist, or a right leaning member or ANY member. Can you answer the question please? Where in the site rules does it say that a member can be boxed or banned for calling a politician a fascist?

Does it mean anything to you that the person you are defending calls others fascist and spews HATE most every single day? Sounds like if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander. Please answer my SITE specific question as to the rules of the site given that all moderators follow the RULES of the site when taking action, not having tallies or quotas. Keep the rules and respect members and pretty much all your angst goes away, as it should.

Its pretty crappy when the head of the FCC goes on ultra right podcasts and throws down all sorts of partisan trash and brags about following the project 2025 protocol. He is so far gone he cannot help his blatant and obvious partisan agenda. Is this the kind of leadership that is meant to service the entire US population including plenty that do not agree with or want the project 2025 ultra conservative framework?

I dont find Jimmy funny Ive never watched his show even once but when the alleged leader of the country spews more hate and divide than most any member in the media how can any of his project 2025 lay claim to someone using a term HE uses and is critical of someone that is shockingly intolerant and abusive every single day?

Trump should resign for his HATE comment alone, there is no place to forward HATE as the leader of the USA.

@BrazenBurrow

 Ok so back off the mean mod stuff and just read what I said and I hope you decide to follow it. There is no place in the main forums for calling someone to religion or to condemn someone who has a different opinion than you.

There is absolutely no need for your hostility towards me, if you want to fight with another member or call them out the ONLY place we remotely allow it is in the box, but not sure why you would want to fight with another member and if you were trying to help a fellow member to find Christianity the condemnation and judgement route is not Christian at all.

@Rush51

 Cool down big guy, the rules of the site are member to member so if you want to play partisan complaining you can be in front of the line instead of mocking and pointing fingers at others.

What in any positive fashion comes from pointing fingers and at the same time not taking responsibility for the errors on your partisan side? Is there a purpose for trying to provoke me and those you disagree with that are not breaking the rules?

Where in the site rules is there any wording that says a member cannot call Trump a fascist and especially when HE calls others that and just yesterday in his mindless rambling says he HATES his enemies?

Trump is a fascist and there is no rules here that say a member is not allowed to state this view.

So what is your response?

@BrazenBurrow

 Dont go that direction please, there is no need to preach religion to other members and it is not appropriate discussion for the main forums. Anyone who calls someone to God is not being Christian, you are not to judge or condemn others. The only action a Christian should take is to love all, follow the teachings of Christ and do unto others as you would want them to do to you. There is no place in true Christianity for condemnation or judging which kind of shuts down most of what actions Kirk took in his life.

@Zeus4par

 Funny now that Modi is not sucking up to Trump and is buying Russian oil that finally we might see an end to this free cheap labor that India companies who import IT workers and pay them cut rates and profit off the difference. There are BILLIONS of dollars of profit for companies like Infosys and NTT and only now is this coming to the front when it has been going on for decades and has cost thousands of high paying jobs for US workers who are fully capable.

@Raiders22

 Callet is like a round more oval chocolate chip which is not as common but is considered more artisan and to me is far superior to any domestic chocolate chip type product including most mid to high tier US chocolate. The brand I mentioned before has different tiers based on cocoa percentage etc.

RD is Restaurant Depot its where most mom and pop places purchase all their goods for their restaurant from produce to meat to cheese to paper products almost anything commonly used in a restaurant and most often cheaper than say Sysco because there is no delivery fee you go there and pull a massive cart around their warehouse and check out yourself.