NutinButtLove

Seriously these type bowls use to be 'eh, they're not good but still fun to watch if you have a bet on' and now I can't even bring myself to bet on them. Whenever I do I happen to pick the team that has guys opt out at the last minute with no announcement, fumble punts and make every mistake possible.

These bowls are basically everything bad about college football magnified and combined. Rag tag rosters of idiot kids who can't do basic things right.

When I watch these teams I often wonder how the players earned complete ride full scholarships. The kickers can't kick. The punt returners can't catch a punt. They commit the dumbest penalties ever.

Both favorites in this game and the last game have gone the entire 2nd half without scoring a TD. USF didn't score a single point the whole 2nd half and ULL can't even score against the 120 something ranked offense even tho theyve been in the red zone at least 3 times.

I dunno they certainly weren't impressive 1st half every time they made a good play they went backwards and the QB holds the ball too long.

Low scoring game definitely favors ODU. I would never have taken USF if they didn't say 'everyone except Brown is playing' and then sit their best WR last minute for a made up injury.

Yeah it's pretty apparent why he never started anywhere. Made 2 good throws but took 3 awful sacks and threw a horrible pick into double coverage when they were near the red zone near end of half

Close game but the pace definitely favors ODU. Easy to see why this kid Moore has been nothing but a backup at 3 schools he has taken sacks on two 3rd downs already and one on 2nd down after a huge play that made it 3rd and 21 and made the FG so far Gramatica one of the best kickers missed it.

People who say this are the biggest morons yeah Vegas really needs a side in some stupid non Power conf early bowl game or the whole ship goes down

Top rec yards WR on USF, never on any injury report all week, not announced as an opt out, then named inactive 1 hr before the game.

Literally no point betting bowls now unless you want to stay glued to your phone for the entire day before a game and only make plays right, and I mean right before the kickoff.

Im on the same side for most of the same reasons. Gas Pipe is apparently very well liked and I think the team will ball out to get this veteran backup a first ever win in his last ever game. He has played in 7 games before and has been at UCF and then Tennessee with the interim coaches (as has their best deep threat WR Chaz Nimrod) so he does know the system and basically he didn't see the field much because he was backing up guys like Dillon Gabriel, Hendon Hooker and now Byrum Brown. All their best weapons are playing, they have 30 seniors, they've won 2 bowls last 2 years so going for 3 in a row with no long travel like last year when they outlasted 5 OTs to win the Hawaii Bowl.

I respect ODU's defense but they don't get takeaways like the Bulls do and their FR QB only played one game last year the finale vs Arkansas St. He ran absolutely wild on them but the Red Wolves were 121st vs the run, S Florida is much better than that (tho they suck vs the pass) he only completed 9 passes all game.

Like yourself I don't think the Bulls had the 2nd ranked ypg offense just because Byrum Brown is some phenomenal QB, they had a very good system and WRs that are very good, 2 good seniors and a FR that leads all freshmen in TDs (i think, he did after the navy game anyway)

So it went barely over .500 and is predicated on one stat?

Wow bookies must be shaking in their boots at such a potent and sophisticated system

You're probably just gonna end up with most of the plays being on favorites

betting on bowls is done. Over. They have ruined the whole thing in so many ways. Only people close to the team know what's going on and even then they probably don't know. Waiting for any big line moves close to kickoff is the only way to bet any non CFP games. How do you bet when you have no idea who is playing?

Usually when i bet a total it starts off great and then the 2nd half it all flips and i lose.

Finally the reverse happened and after a scoreless 1st quarter and only 10 at the half we get some garbage time TDs to squeak the dub.

Btw fade the Steelers next week vs Detroit. The Lions need that game bad now and the Steelers (who are not that good) don't. All they need to do is beat Baltimore again and they win the division. Anyway that defense missing those guys will be looking much more vulnerable in the dome vs the Lions offense. You saw flashes of it tonight they gave up chunks in the 4th (game was all but over) but also the 1st quarter until Tua threw that pick.

Mike McDaniel boy genius has orchestrated a negative 20 yards 3rd quarter offense. He has to get fired at the end of this year they only had a win streak because after upsetting the Bills they played the Saints Commanders and Jets they're not any good. Neither are the Steelers i can't wait to fade them with Detroit next week

Same dude. WTF. Every drive had the worst ending.

Tho sometimes a slow 1st half ends up being a high scoring 2nd half. Tough to hit an over when both teams put up zeros 1st quarter tho.

If they weren't fking around with Achane's shoes they probably would have handed off there what a stupid thing to do on first down throw a duck up for grabs

After an under in week 1 the Phins had 6 straight overs, then a push, then 4 straight unders.

Last game went Over. Let's see if this team can stay streaky and take the same thing again. Why not? Mike McDaniel is definitely gonna gamble on 4th downs in this elimination games cuz that's what he does anyway. Which is why i hate him cuz the team actually sucks at converting them!

But, the Steelers are one of the worst in the NFL at stopping 4th down conversions so maybe they won't get stuffed - especially with Harmon and Watt missing in the middle of that defense.

Rodgers roasted the Phins twice last year with the Jets. Their defense is much better this year vs the pass and he 2ont have Adams and Wilson, but he will be helped by the fact theyre awful vs the run 27th in rush d and the Steelers get Warren back plus Gain well has run fo4 over 100 yards last 3 games.

Meanwhile the Steelers are 27th vs the pass. It will be cold and a lot on the line but this could sail over if we get some 4th down and red zone conversions to happen

Over 42 3 unit play

Dallas -4.5

Despite last week Minnesota is pretty offensively challenged, and those type of teams the Boys have proven they can handle at home (Philly, KC are similarly challenged) even with their bad defense. Minnesota is the next worst 3rd down offense and even tho they scored 4 TDs ladt time they are averaging 1.3 per game in the last 3 games

The Boys have a much more dangerous attack not just through the air with Pickens and Lamb but Javonte Williams has 1,000 yards rushing. They're not gonn mess up this chance to stay competitive for the division and wild card spots and have to feel pretty good about their home advantage 

how did the bucs not recover that fumble

Refs are a joke

His elbow hit first

Baker with the dumbest interception seriously they manufacture all these close games how do teams fk up so bad every time they're winning 

You would swear these guys are getting paid to let the other team come back, happens so much the last few years. Same thing almost happened last night with the Texans until Mahomes and Reid messed up. Teams just forget how to score after halftime it's even worse when they are up 10 or 20 they do it like clockwork 

They do that when it's 1 yard to go not 2 and more often on 4th downs do you even watch the games

Can't remember ever seeing a QB log a pick and fumble on one play lmao