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***SUPER BOWL XLVI--PATRIOTS VS GIANTS***

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[Quote: Originally Posted by theclaw]

 

They have covered but not always won SU.

2003-04 Pats went 1-1 ATS VS panthers 3-0 ATS, Pats won SU.

1999-00 Rams went 1-1 ATS VS Titans 3-0 ATS, Rams won SU. And Rams pushed on closing spread.


EXACTLY MY POINT,THEY COV SPREAD!!....SOMETIMES THE UNDERDOG WON OUTRIGHT ALSO.....pay attention to what i wrote please

panthers 3-0 ats = sb cover!!

titans 3-0 ats = sb cover!!...(if u dont buy a hook or point on key # like 3 or (7 here) than you are a complete betting idiot,sorry!)
 
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Posted: #127
Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:


how about this PTB if you think this is a trend:
the record for a team with a defense that belonged in the bottom 5 in the regular season is 0-45 in the superbowl.bol.
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Every Super Bowl one of the teams had a defense in the bottom 5 in the regular season?  Please explain, doesn't sound possible.  No offense meant
 
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Posted: #128
Quote Originally Posted by dawizard2011:

Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

 

They have covered but not always won SU.

2003-04 Pats went 1-1 ATS VS panthers 3-0 ATS, Pats won SU.

1999-00 Rams went 1-1 ATS VS Titans 3-0 ATS, Rams won SU. And Rams pushed on closing spread.


EXACTLY MY POINT,THEY COV SPREAD!!....SOMETIMES THE UNDERDOG WON OUTRIGHT ALSO.....pay attention to what i wrote please

panthers 3-0 ats = sb cover!!

titans 3-0 ats = sb cover!!...(if u dont buy a hook or point on key # like 3 or (7 here) than you are a complete betting idiot,sorry!)

 

I did pay attention, you wrote team with better ATS record WON/COVERED 9 OF 11 TIMES, covered yes , won no.

 
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Posted: #129
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

Since 1997 wild card teams in the SB are.........................9-0 ATS and 6-3 SU with 2 of those 3 losses by 3 pts and the other Titans stopped at the 1 foot line from tying the game.

 

I would not bet against the Gmen..........................................

 

Im not questioning the stat because I havent done any research on it, but you are saying that out of the last 15 years, 9 superbowls have had a wildcard team in them? I sure wouldnt have thought that

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by dawizard2011] 09-10 = N.O. (WO)WON S.B.OUTRIGHT AFTER NO COVER VS VIKES....COLTS COV THROUGHOUT PLAYOFFS

95-96 = PITT. COV S.B. AFTER NO COVER VS INDY....DALLAS COV THROUGHOUT PLAYOFFS


**SINCE 1990-91 SEASON THE TEAM THAT HAS **COVERED THROUGHOUT THE PLAYOFFS** HAS WON/COV/WO THE SUPER BOWL (9 of the 11 times)...the 2 years listed above were the only times it failed!!**


with this being said....the NYG fit in this year cov/wo all games in playoffs!!!...the pats no cover vs balt last week


PLAY ON  NYG +3

actually u not paying attention like i said...i made it bigger for you above to read again!!....its not the team with better ats record,its the team with PERFECT ats record vs those with at least 1 no cover/push.....this stat does not include teams who may have covered twice while other team only covered once!!....its only teams that had PERFECT ats record as clearly stated originally!!!
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by theclaw]

 

I did pay attention, you wrote team with better ATS record WON/COVERED 9 OF 11 TIMES, covered yes , won no.


wow i guess i got to break down what exactly WON/COV/WO MEANS....WON=covered spread as dog......COV= covered spread as fav.....and WO=won outright as dog.......by the way / = or,...lmao.....im sorry for those who already knew the terminology
 
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Quote Originally Posted by WizrduvOdz:

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Every Super Bowl one of the teams had a defense in the bottom 5 in the regular season?  Please explain, doesn't sound possible.  No offense meant



No he just saying no team has ever won the superbowl that has been in the bottom 5 in defense.There hasnt been too many in the superbowl.Also This is the first time that 2 teams are playing each other that are NOT in the top 25 of defense for the season.
 
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For the conspiracy theorist: Pats v Rams in England next season, let's send the Champs overseas for a nice marketing $cheme!
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by BostonStrangler] For the conspiracy theorist: Pats v Rams in England next season, let's send the Champs overseas for a nice marketing $cheme! 

ummmmmm actually no conspiracy here being that the rams go over every year  for next 3 cause their owner is also owner of arsenal so he has ties over there already....of course it wont hurt to send tom brady over also....win or lose!!nobody will care in england by next year anyway,lol
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dawizard2011:

Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:

For the conspiracy theorist: Pats v Rams in England next season, let's send the Champs overseas for a nice marketing $cheme! 

ummmmmm actually no conspiracy here being that the rams go over every year  for next 3 cause their owner is also owner of arsenal so he has ties over there already....of course it wont hurt to send tom brady over also....win or lose!!nobody will care in england by next year anyway,lol

Oh, St. Louis is in the Super Bowl now?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

There has been 7 super bowls since 1990 with the total of 50 or higher & the Under has come in 5 of those 7 bowl games..................with the last 3 bowl games of 50 or higher coming in on the under.............something to think about..............

Where were these games played? indoors? What type teams were they? High scoring or Defensive teams?

 
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The public was on the Packers in the previous super bowl and won.

The public can win on this Giants bet again.

The line makers make the most money from prop bets, like the coin toss and gatorade color bath.

I believe the Giants will win the ATS and ML. The Under looks good as well.

 
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Posted: #138
The o/u looks pretty split right now and thats why 55 was the right number.
 
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hope so  i am probable taking the patriots if i do bet
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Nah. Revenge is sweet. Manning has no business being in this game. Belichek takes Cruz away.....NE by 14+



 
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UNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



Giants own the Patriots..........5-1 ATS past 6 times.......Eli will own Brady once more..............

This one isnt about trends PTB , this one is common sense... This is for the Legacy of the Superior Champ MR.Brady... U can crunch all the numbers u want .. Just stop wasting your time trying to fool yourself, u have been doing this for too long.. U know this is all about Brady.. Please dont mislead yourself or others.. Do the right thing PTB...

 
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I myself love the under.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

I take that back, the 3 losses, Panthers 3 pt loss to Pats, Zona 4 pt loss to Steelers, both teams lost on last minute drives, Titans 7 pt loss to Rams after being stopped at the 1 foot line.

 

In todays era of pass happy teams the better teams simply can not dominate in the playoffs like era's before.  GOOD POINT.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



No, it doesnt worry me the public is pounding the Giants at all...........Public was pound the G-men past 3 playoff games & they got the money.................no difference here............pro bettors jumped on the Giants at +3.5 & ML  & are still drilling the line..............gonna be interesting to see if the line drops to 2.............

 

I thought I was reading this right...this is the game that will change the course imo. Public been pounding the Giants but I think others are joining in too, too many of others.....this is the game that will allow the books to say this is why we do what we do. IMO...it's the game for them to get all that Giants moneyback after they beat the Packers and than alot more. That 100-1 is a huge #, regardless of how you look at it.

 
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how low do you think the betting  line will go?......Pats -1 1/2  or as low as even?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by donk:

how low do you think the betting  line will go?......Pats -1 1/2  or as low as even?


Imo, it will go back up to -3...............thats where the line should close........
 
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In 5 super bowl rematches, the team that won the first meeting won the subsequent game 4 times. 

With that said, i'm still leaning towards Brady tying Montana's 4 super bowls....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



Imo, it will go back up to -3...............thats where the line should close........

 

I agree with you...you've been pretty spot on.

Giants ML is 2.1 and Pats ML is 1.7....that's a nice payday for the books don't you think? If ppl buy the .5 off of 3...than it's a bigger payday for the books. If this line stays at a solid 3 and closed at 3....than the books really like the Pats, they are not hedging it any lower. It sounds like that 100-1 will stay at 100-1 is what I gathered.

So I don't think the books care if this game push at 3...they may have the eyes on something bigger.....o/u maybe? Teasers and parlays are tied up into the total.....but that total and you'll bust alot of nuts.

I could be wrong...but that's why we throw shit out there, to get FB.

 

 
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Guys the Giants pass rush will not stop the Pats offense. Belichick & Brady will be prepared to counter the pass rush. They will move the chains.

The giants will also move the chains.

This game will be determined by Red Zone Scoring. Whichever team converts red zone trips to td's more than the other will win this game.

Good luck trying to cap that. I am leaning towards the better coaching, QB, and tight ends in that situation.

But the big question here is the health of Gronkowski's ankle. I am not making any  moves until I find out more. I saw that injury to the ankle and it looked really nasty. He's walking in a boot right now and not practicing. High ankle sprains are no joke as we learned from Big Ben and Gronk will be doing a lot more running.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Nah. Revenge is sweet. Manning has no business being in this game. Belichek takes Cruz away.....NE by 14+




train much respect bro but I have to say when I read this I was like, who is this impostor and what has he done with Train..

Manning has no business to be in this game has to be the most absurd thing I have and ever will hear you say.

 I hope you were just really drunk when you posted this.

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