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Funny, because I recall that the building of the wall in the US was halted because another administration claimed it was a waste of money and not a serious policy solution. In which, that administration also terminated the national emergency declaration that was in place. That project was halted after it had already started, so well late in the game. The wall was diverting funds from military to build, which in turn could help protect America.
What is odd, is that there is a serious situation occurring now and instead of realizing it was the start of trying something versus sitting by and doing nothing, the project was completely halted. it has now since resumed, but this is part of a major problem with how our system is set up. Something gets started only for another administration to come in and slay it. This is why anyone who get their undies in a wad over a current administration and their policies is comical because if you just wait it out there is a high likelihood that it is halted in the next administration(s). In this case with the wall, instead of trying something to fix a well known problem, most would rather continuing as business as usual. Makes no sense. |
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in Penalty Box It was softly placed here....hope it wasn't because I asked for a vaccine...Fauci may be a member here |
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in Penalty Box To that logic...that would mean there are millions of people riddled with a very new disease....
Do you think a vaccine could be made to help combat this terrible new disease that has not yet been recognized by the American Psychiatric Association? I mean, how does America stop the spread of such a rampant virus without knowing its complete origin, the cause or how or if it can infect others....I sure hope this gets under control soon before it starts to affect people around me. I wouldn't want to contract some unknown illness because America sat by and did nothing. This is terrible. |
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in Penalty Box As soon as FMLA starts covering TDS as a serious health condition, then I will be on board with its detraction |
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The word scrambles are great...I just found my answer to 14 down on my crossword puzzle....WINNING |
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Quote Originally Posted by Zman55: You are basing things on theory and what you feel and not actuality..corruption is everywhere, but it is not happening based on the the original posts you made as mentioned above..you simply don't know what 99% of ALL books have action on and there is no way that 99% of betting public is betting over on player prop totals and games are not being fixed at the end to avoid overtime...if this is true, as you stated, show proof...
@ABooksNightmare You doing this for 40 years what were your thoughts before the NBA ref came out and admitted? Head in sand back then also?
You are failing to see the human element with all of this, even as you portray yourself here in this thread....you are a conspiracy theorists and that is it...humans do amazing and stupid shit all the time...the NFL is a game with humans and so that element can be both amazing and a head scratcher at times...not because it is fixed, but because humans are not perfect...get a grip dude |
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That question is tough...Jayden looks good overall between the 3..at least has the best potential |
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Quote Originally Posted by Zman55: No, I knew players were getting paid in some way, so what is your point because now you are going on to different topics outside of your original argument, which is that the books are fixing games to avoid overtime because of player over prop totals because 99% of betting public is betting over...
@ABooksNightmare What was your thoughts back before NIL money for college did you think kids were not getting paid under the table because there was no shred of evidence but fast forward to now and they all laugh about it. You act like you need some giant conspiracy with 30+ people involved to influence a game, One side judge with a bad call or even worse a no call, or how the side judge spots the ball a foot off multiple times a game. There's so many ways, NFL is not saying hey make sure X game ends 27-20.
stay on topic about what you said and the message that is being discussed here...you can shift all you like, but I am on point with your original outlandish comments you made. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Zman55:
I've been doing it for 25 years, congrats on being in the game for 40. Also congrats on having your head in the sand for 40 years I envy you. I guess that one NBA ref was just a one off. You were probably also the guy that thought NCAA players weren't getting paid prior to NiL
So my head is in the sand while you live in a complete and utter fantasy land...the original premise of your thread was about the league limiting games going into overtime because of the amount of money being bet on over props...as if to suggest that the league or books have control over this during games...you have no proof of any of this and then profess that 99% of the public is betting on player over props and that books can see where ALL the action is.... I am saying this is completely false and you have no way to prove that this is true. It is highly improbable that 99% of bettors are betting on player prop overs and I already know that it is impossible for ALL the books to know where other businesses action is....this is simply not possible and not common knowledge as you would suggest...my responses were on point with your original comments...
Now let's shift your theory to a new topic and new discussion about the Donaghy effect...yes, he got busted for calling more fouls against the team he and his animal crew were betting against...it's a form of manipulation, but certainly not fixing games or playing to the effect of player props like you are suggesting here...he and his crew devised a plan to use the whistle to help influence the outcome of a game he was officiating and betting on/against a certain team...he was one man in a three man crew of on court NBA refs and yes he did some shady shit with the blatant calls he made...his shit went on for a very short period before he got caught...he got caught because of an investigation into his buddy who was a professional gambler..Donaghy confessed to using certain lingo to tip off bookies into player health situations, relationships and of course to influence games with his whistle...this was very short lived though and he got caught because of irregular betting patterns by a professional gambler after a thorough FBI investigation...
The NFL consists of seven on field referees and is a completely different situation...again, going off your original premise that games are being fixed a certain way because 99% of the betting public are taking player prop totals over is absolutely inaccurate....this would make the claim that player props are closely being monitored and at the end of games this information is relayed to the stadium or individuals to not allow a possible outcome during the game....you know how difficult that would be to communicate such a thing during a live game? We have coaches that can't even get play calls in timely or QB's that can't get plays off before the play clock expires and you think that there is some coordinated effort to fix player prop over totals and no one has been busted for this yet...no way..that's complete bullshit and to even think that you would think this tells me how off base the betting public is who actually thinks this...you do know that the NFL reviews every play from every NFL game for referee inaccuracies as part of an evaluation process and each crew and individual is graded to ensure consistent accuracy of each performance...you're not getting one referee out of seven to fix anything... If there was anything shady going on then this would have been exploited long ago...just stop with this nonsense or as biscuit said, show proof... |
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: Right, my IQ is in question, yet you are siding on the side of conspiracy theory without one shred of evidence and all the facts pointing to the contrary
@ABooksNightmare Not a books nightmare with that IQ. |
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If I give a hint will people follow it |
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You're talking about boosts
That's your theory...boosts...gimmicks...oh my |
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I think the outcomes are legit and can be influenced like any other sport, but not nearly on the basis as you presented here in this thread with props...the one you dont factor in any of your nonsense is poor bomehead plays by humans...ridiculous coaching decisions by humans or poor judgements made by humans....humans are not perfect and therefore that is why outcomes appear odd and strange not because vegas jad influence over the outcome related to prop bets...get a hold of yourself.. I discredited your logic in my previous post. And yes, it was lpgic and rationale being used not some stupid conspiracy theory loke you suggested...
I've been doing this shit for almost 40 years and I've seen crazy shit happeni almost 40 years ago before information could be transmitted via internet or even cellphones...that's right, same shit before any such technology and information was able to be shared globally...
Some of you forget that there didnt used to be cellphones or the internet and some of us had a 35 foot phone cord with a rotary phone just to try and talk to people..this shit you see today happened back then to so and the reason is because it is dealing with humans... |
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You win some you lose some
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Don't know how that Buffalo game stayed under after the start but clearly Buffalo has some serious problems and that showed more today than I saw against the Pats...or maybe I didnt want to see it...dunno but they look like they need help...bye bye superman |
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Please come in and tell all of us how today's games were rigged so we can gain the knowledge you have
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Welcome to the betting life...now stop |
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