Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict

@THEMUGG

 Sure it is Mugg, his reply was actually an insult to the post several above his. That post was discussing my earlier comment which is the same as I replied to him that discussion does not take place here and what does he do? Counter replies pointing fingers and partisan divide yet again.

I like discussion and I make discussion quite regularly but what I dislike and will reply to is partisan garbage and he more than many on your side plays that tune over and over and over. 

So was Trump the first the best the only the original with regards to tariffs? Of course not...so why does both Trump and your side need to back slap that concept when anyone with a few cells in their head know that tariffs are a direct tax on the consumer. Add that China has 100x workarounds to any "tariff" we throw their way and it does little to no damage to their economy.

Do you guys want to get China? Then identify critical imports that China relies on and shut them down...that is how you hit China. Ban their vehicles imports, ban their electronic imports, ban their consumer goods imports. We are not wanting to make an impact, solar and metal tariffs are grandstanding yawners which do little but hey they are a big statement maker for politicians.

@THEMUGG

 One more small item...your claim about left threads- we have discussed this so many times and the truth is that those threads are not wanting your involvement they are not seeking conversation with your side at all. You are not required or even suggested to reply in those threads and you are not required to reply in ANY thread in the entire site/forum. Those guys like to discuss left topics and cheer themselves over and over, that is not breaking the rules. Making jabs about conservatives in general is inching up to the line of the site rules but is not a direct across the board rule breaker. You know where I am going with this, when another member insults another member DIRECTLY and specifically now that is breaking the rules and is cause for taking action.

I do not like partisan threads, I do not like their approach and I think it does not create conversation and is petty and of little value and to an extent we allow it on BOTH sides, your group has threads and in the past as you know there were MANY MANY MANY threads, but some of the thread makers are less active now or have decided it is not worth the annoyance, but you cant say that it is one-sided at all. What you and your side should learn (and never seem to even though it has been suggested so many times) is to never attack other members, not in this sub-forum not in other forums not at all. What gets people boxed/banned is direct insults and attacks to other members not partisan generalizations or conversations. I'd rather not see either side huddle and babble but we allow that much more than attacking and insulting directly.

This is the proposition:

Any facts about how Trump’s policies encouraged inflation is attacked as not real. Really, tariffs do cause inflation.

This is the counter question to the biggest economic issue in the last couple of years:

If tariffs caused inflation than why did Biden leave them in place and add more? 

Then this is the next response:

Yeah Trump was the first politician to use tariffs....brilliant, he is the best the first the only there is nothing like him.

This is the problem with the Left in the forum.  When they are questioned about an issue they bring up, they avoid that particular topic.  Or, at best, cloud it with other issues; or, at worst use it as an opportunity to bash Trump.  The hatred for Trump has made too many unhinged and noncredible on the issues themselves. 

The question remains the same for the issue:  IF tariffs cause inflation (and, if that were a huge cause of concern for the USA) why did Biden keep them in place and add more?  Whether Trump is the first to use tariffs or is a bad person is not the topic.

By and large, tariffs are bad for the folks but good for the individual companies.  They are, in a sense, anti-freetrade.  

There is far more at play with the current inflation than tariffs.  Tariffs, themselves, do not cause inflation at large.  They can have isolated inflationary effects in industries, etc.

I have addressed this with tariffs, subsidies, duties, and taxes on here before.  There can be some reasons to use targeted tariffs, especially for short terms.  They will generally not lead to overall inflation in the economy.  They certainly were not the cause of the current inflation.

Torrential downpour I slalom through histrionics , never caressing the ground floor with my gyat cuz I’m never missing or hitting bottom , now watch me magician these witticisms as I spin my frickin’ wand once , to these wannabe Fonzis that ain’t even Chachis let alone Ritchies or even Pinkys do you dig it cuz it’s a problem ,

cuz Happy Days may come every once a couple hundred days , with some trouble or some hard luck ,

but they ain’t here to stay like Arthur in the waves when he jumped that fuckin’ shark what ?

Yeah you heard me . all of it is misery . Especially when you’re a fuckin’ Sigma but they insist that you’re a chump and a nothing but a skibbidy , that’s wishful thinking please ….

so put your politics for a second on simmer and set it on that far left back burner , because our manners have atrophied and that’s crackling like a Pat Morita or AL fatburger……

* let’s work together and respect each other gentlemen . And I’m sorry that “ my office “ is in fact a bathroom and smells like Ralph Mouth’s shit . 

but still , let’s try to focus on considerate discussion without the insults . Let’s concentrate on truth instead . Because it’s going the way of Fonzarelli’s original choice of jacket in the series . Poof . Gone . And that’s my opinion . Thanx .

@Raiders22

 Follow the thread Raiders...then take a poke when you have full and non-partisan perspective. Instead of crane-game picking a REPLY I made, follow the chain of the thread and find the source instead of your usual left bashing commentary.

Ive discussed tariffs in more depth and longer term than you have here and I am not sure what that has to do with anything. We agree that tariffs are not a full inflationary event, they are a POLITICAL EVENT. That is why Biden kept them, that is why Trump made them that is why any POTUS makes them to puff up their political capital and act like they are being tough when in reality it is not tough it accomplishes nothing.

If we wanted to hit China we could but we do not wish to do so and we never have.

same shit different week.....

the top 30 threads in this POS cess pool are all about Trump....

Nothing about what is really going on in the world.  This is a big circle jerk propaganda sub forum just like every other social media platform.  The shiit lib MSM are in full on melt down mode last few weeks throwing out every distraction they can think of and all the usual nipple suspects are propping up the thread views.  Hunter gun charge BS GTFOH from the UNIParty government.  LOL.  

P.S.  Russians are doing naval exercises off the coast of Cuba/FL a la Kennedy era style and not a word of it...... Biden's regime handlers are laughing at you all right now.  Sheeple gonna sheep..... GF'd.  

"Fucck yo couch ya'll" 
-Ricky J / Dave C.  

@wallstreetcappers

 So, why not make that reply to him instead of the one you did make.  Instead of taking a 'poke' at him and then bashing Trump.

That is exactly what the guy meant -- there is no discussion going on that way.  It is the same whether you 'follow the thread' or 'follow any other thread'.

I am not saying tariffs are always political.  There can be isolated reasons for a particular sector -- but they should be limited and short term.  

I addressed this in more detail on tariffs a few years back.  People, especially politicians, sometimes misunderstand what is trying to be achieved and the expectations.

There has to be an overall balance with the economy, the targeted sector and the politics.

@Raiders22

 When you are spotless (which you are not) then you can call me out. You had no reason to reply and quote me as you did, that was your decision and it shows your partisan petty attacks on me and they continue.

There is no rebuttal for Uniman, he had no reason to go after the previous member as he did and that was the issue that brought me to the topic..as I continually bring up. 

If you really are interested in non-partisan discussion you are very poor at expressing it and being neutral, you are so far from neutral I dont see how you can suggest others do anything at all. I really have no interest in your critique on any topic I reply to at any time, so please keep your slighted biased comments to yourself until you are spotless and unbiased yourself. At least Uniman does not try to come off as something he is not, he is flagrantly partisan and does make jabbed responses, he does not pull your scheme and act as if you are above the fray and deserving of suggesting anyone what to do.

@wallstreetcappers

 No it is not.  It is simply pointing out that you are doing the very thing he was complaining about.

What do you mean there is 'no rebuttal for Unman'?  I can think of several very good ones.  I may not agree with them.  But that is the advantage of seeing both sides of issues and being able to discuss them.  Maybe you cannot think of any good ones, so that is why you went straight to your usually Trump-bashing.

I am not spotless -- but I am not biased on issues by blind hatred.  So, yes, I can call out folks when they do not want to discuss issues and claim that they do when that was the very thing you replied to.

I have never claimed to be 'neutral'; that is your claim -- obviously you are far from neutral.  So, my comments are absolutely biased because these are subjects I have written and spoken on for years.  

But economics can largely be non-political to me.

As far as politics go, I have never even thought about trying to 'come off as something I am not'.  Unlike you, that want to claim not to be Far-Left.

So, maybe go back and attempt to actually discuss the issues with those guys instead of what you did.

@wallstreetcappers

 Specifically:

If tariffs caused inflation than why did Biden leave them in place and add more? 

@Raiders22

 #83.

The real issue is that only one side has the ability to objectively listen, consider, and then reason to an amicable outcome.  

Unlike of friends on the left, my mind is malleable with compelling arguments on a topic.  Sadly they're not very good conversationalists.

Something along this line should adequately solidify my point.

@unplucked_gem

Good point.  Like the man said:

Any smart person should be open to two things:  being wrong and change with that new information. 

you guys can't point out stuff like that...whether right, wrong or indifferent that's just

My post was clearly disagreeing with facts that were posted by Sidehatch. And I listed additional facts. And asked a question.

I didn't insult with "stupid", or "moron", or "knuckle dragging Neanderthal", will leave that to you folks. 

@UNIMAN

Maybe you are so far gone that you do not realize how you respond and interact and how abrasive and antagonistic it is. There has to be a different way for you to have a difference of opinion or state fact or discuss or whatever else you want to qualify in a way that is not so offensive.

Eight men from Tajikistan with potential ties to ISIS out of central Asia were arrested over the weekend in New York, Philadelphia and Los Angeles, three people familiar with the matter told NBC News on Tuesday.

The suspects had been on the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force radar and were arrested by personnel with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, better known as ICE, the sources say.

All eight men crossed through the southern border into the U.S., and their criminal backgrounds checks came back clean when they crossed, say two officials familiar with the matter.

At least two of the men crossed the border in spring 2023, and one of those men used the CBP One app, which the Biden administration created to allow migrants to book appointments to claim asylum, those officials say.

The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force has been aware of a potential terrorist threat originating in central Europe, and it began monitoring these men as part of that investigation, three sources say.

A senior U.S. official says the FBI was monitoring the group for several months and kept close tabs on their activities.

While they have not been charged with a terrorist connection or plot yet, the FBI alerted ICE they should be arrested because of potential ties to ISIS, and they were arrested on immigration charges, two sources say. They are detained and face removal proceedings before an immigration judge, and they could later face terrorism-related charges, two sources say.

Domestic Terrorists they say, watch out for far-right extremists they also say 

This is just the beginning of the chaos of the canceled border policies that Joe signed off on, on DAY ONE   

I read post 73 and a MODERATOR’S response is post 75.

what message in post 73 is “the problem with this forum”? Only problem I see is our MODERATOR’S childish response in 75

@philschnaars

 Ok so you also exhibit a wonderful example of being the respectful and pleasant poster? Its funny reading replies from the most antagonistic posters here that are acting like they arent. You are not a contributing poster, you do not engage in open and respectful discussion so your complaint and pity message means absolutely nothing.

Follow the rules and make things better before you start criticizing me or anyone.

@wallstreetcappers

  You know where I am going with this, when another member insults another member DIRECTLY and specifically now that is breaking the rules and is cause for taking action.

 You mean something along these lines?

 

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Fears are mostly hypothetical.  Little evidence supports claim that allowing more immigrants mean letting in more terrorists.  Although border patrol arrest more suspects on watch list, that doesn't mean they are terrorists.  Watch list is very broad to cast as wide a net as possible.  Suspects are typically detained.  Those considered dangerous are expelled or deported.  Suspects are a tiny fraction of all immigrants.

Despite more immigration, domestic terrorism is still a greater threat.  For years, far right extremists are responsible for the majority of terrorist attacks in the US according to Homeland security department, Government accountability office and Center for strategic studies.

@wallstreetcappers

 I don’t need to contribute in the conversations occurring since more educated people than me make good posts daily, I read the information I find and do as I will with it.  That’s kinda my free speech that you said is impossible no? The ability to not speak is a part of speech and I said nothing to anyone except pointing out something you said to reflect on 

@THEMUGG

 He has been boxed many times, if he did something recently please send in a report and one of us will check it out.