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Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 11:20 PM ET #1

No way Jays lose, right? Ace on the mound in first postseason appearance in awhile against lowly Gallardo? Crowd will be electric. Jays should be able to put up at least 4 runs on him. 
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No way Jays lose, right? Ace on the mound in first postseason appearance in awhile against lowly Gallardo? Crowd will be electric. Jays should be able to put up at least 4 runs on him. 
 
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Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 11:28 PM ET #2

Price has a bad history vs. about half the lineup tomorrow. Gallardo has better numbers vs. the Toronto lineup. Obviously, a lot more goes into the game than that but it is a red flag at that price. -1.5 Toronto if you must, the cost of the moneyline is far too steep.
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Price has a bad history vs. about half the lineup tomorrow. Gallardo has better numbers vs. the Toronto lineup. Obviously, a lot more goes into the game than that but it is a red flag at that price. -1.5 Toronto if you must, the cost of the moneyline is far too steep.
 
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Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 11:31 PM ET #3

Yea this could definitely be bait from Vegas. It's steep but most people are going to ride it. Rangers +1.5 seems like a good bet. 
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Yea this could definitely be bait from Vegas. It's steep but most people are going to ride it. Rangers +1.5 seems like a good bet. 
 
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Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 11:37 PM ET #4

Jays win the next 3 !!!

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Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 11:50 PM ET #5

Over 7.5
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Tor -1.5 -115 is more square than on Kershaw; that being said, we are seeing lopsided pitching match ups and one side getting all the breaks. Could be the game one tendency tomorrow . Just be aware that EVERYTHING changes after game one--most people will continue being square, and the game changes but the betting mindset won't--this is the setup or trap for the bookies to get even. Soooo, Price -1.5 for me. 
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Tor -1.5 -115 is more square than on Kershaw; that being said, we are seeing lopsided pitching match ups and one side getting all the breaks. Could be the game one tendency tomorrow . Just be aware that EVERYTHING changes after game one--most people will continue being square, and the game changes but the betting mindset won't--this is the setup or trap for the bookies to get even. Soooo, Price -1.5 for me. 
 
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GarGar dig ur insight RL FOR ME TOO
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Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:21 AM ET #8

Jays TT over.
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Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 3:53 AM ET #9

gotta look at how each pitcher has been doing down the stretch

gallardo 6 starts in september 4.85 era

price since allstar break 9-1 2.30 era

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texas on the road score 4.28 runs, give up 4.27

toronto at home score 5.56 runs, give up 3.6

toronto is better in every category except speed.  texas has better base runners, but likely neutralized by jays better defence since ground balls likely gobbled up and turned into double plays.

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toronto has owned texas, last 16 meetings 12 wins 4 losses.

also price has never lost at skydome/rogers center.

stadium is gonna be electric after 22 year playoff drought.

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afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time

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gotta look at how each pitcher has been doing down the stretch

gallardo 6 starts in september 4.85 era

price since allstar break 9-1 2.30 era

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texas on the road score 4.28 runs, give up 4.27

toronto at home score 5.56 runs, give up 3.6

toronto is better in every category except speed.  texas has better base runners, but likely neutralized by jays better defence since ground balls likely gobbled up and turned into double plays.

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toronto has owned texas, last 16 meetings 12 wins 4 losses.

also price has never lost at skydome/rogers center.

stadium is gonna be electric after 22 year playoff drought.

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afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time

 
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little bit on gallardo i found

Rangers' Yovani Gallardo continues to be inefficient in no decision

Rangers starter Yovani Gallardo didn't factor into Friday's decision, giving up two runs on eight hits and two walks while striking out four over 4 2/3 innings in a win over Houston.

Gallardo struggled with efficiency on Friday, failing to get past the fifth inning on 87 pitches. In 15 starts since Independence Day, Gallardo has made it through six innings just twice. His 4.21 BB/9 rate can be identified as a primary culprit in his inability to pitch deep into games. Given his weak strikeout totals, there is little incentive to have him in your rotation.

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Rangers' Yovani Gallardo continues to be inefficient in no decision

Rangers starter Yovani Gallardo didn't factor into Friday's decision, giving up two runs on eight hits and two walks while striking out four over 4 2/3 innings in a win over Houston.

Gallardo struggled with efficiency on Friday, failing to get past the fifth inning on 87 pitches. In 15 starts since Independence Day, Gallardo has made it through six innings just twice. His 4.21 BB/9 rate can be identified as a primary culprit in his inability to pitch deep into games. Given his weak strikeout totals, there is little incentive to have him in your rotation.

 
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Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 6:48 AM ET #11

Jays rl and over for me!!!! Bol
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Quote Originally Posted by pasqualie1980
---------afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time[/Quote:



How do you know the roof will be open??
Just because it's an afternoon game?
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---------afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time[/Quote:



How do you know the roof will be open??
Just because it's an afternoon game?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by pasqualie1980:

gotta look at how each pitcher has been doing down the stretch

gallardo 6 starts in september 4.85 era

price since allstar break 9-1 2.30 era

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texas on the road score 4.28 runs, give up 4.27

toronto at home score 5.56 runs, give up 3.6

toronto is better in every category except speed.  texas has better base runners, but likely neutralized by jays better defence since ground balls likely gobbled up and turned into double plays.

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toronto has owned texas, last 16 meetings 12 wins 4 losses.

also price has never lost at skydome/rogers center.

stadium is gonna be electric after 22 year playoff drought.

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afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time



You forgot one more category Texas is better in. Throw all the stats out the window. Texas has playoff experience. Alot of it. They know how to play post season playoff. Makes a HUGE difference.
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gotta look at how each pitcher has been doing down the stretch

gallardo 6 starts in september 4.85 era

price since allstar break 9-1 2.30 era

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texas on the road score 4.28 runs, give up 4.27

toronto at home score 5.56 runs, give up 3.6

toronto is better in every category except speed.  texas has better base runners, but likely neutralized by jays better defence since ground balls likely gobbled up and turned into double plays.

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toronto has owned texas, last 16 meetings 12 wins 4 losses.

also price has never lost at skydome/rogers center.

stadium is gonna be electric after 22 year playoff drought.

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afternoon game so roof will be open, so balls gonna be flying out of there with 16km winds, 15 celsius or 59 farenheit for game time



You forgot one more category Texas is better in. Throw all the stats out the window. Texas has playoff experience. Alot of it. They know how to play post season playoff. Makes a HUGE difference.
 
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Jays couldn't scratch a run on Gallardo in 12 innings

Price is 1-5 in the playoffs.. 3 of those losses to Texas

They still have players from back then like Beltre, Andrus, Moreland, Josh Hamilton that know Price well..
I know this is history and long history

But Keuchel owned the Yankees and look what happened
Arrieta shutout the Pirates twice in 2015 and look what happened

There is a reason why they chose Gallardo over Hamels in Game 1. Yes Hamels 3 days rest.. But Game 1 starter will start if necessary a Game 5 and Gallardo has a much better chance of winning over Hamels even tho Hamels is the "ACE"

I would be very careful 
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Jays couldn't scratch a run on Gallardo in 12 innings

Price is 1-5 in the playoffs.. 3 of those losses to Texas

They still have players from back then like Beltre, Andrus, Moreland, Josh Hamilton that know Price well..
I know this is history and long history

But Keuchel owned the Yankees and look what happened
Arrieta shutout the Pirates twice in 2015 and look what happened

There is a reason why they chose Gallardo over Hamels in Game 1. Yes Hamels 3 days rest.. But Game 1 starter will start if necessary a Game 5 and Gallardo has a much better chance of winning over Hamels even tho Hamels is the "ACE"

I would be very careful 
 
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Roof is going to be closed, not open.
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Still leaning Rangers +1.5. This game really seems like a toss up even though the line is so steep. Gallardo can have one bad inning and the game will be all but over. Price should be able to control whatever damage does come his way, but the Rangers have been here before and the Jays have the whole city on their back. 
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Still leaning Rangers +1.5. This game really seems like a toss up even though the line is so steep. Gallardo can have one bad inning and the game will be all but over. Price should be able to control whatever damage does come his way, but the Rangers have been here before and the Jays have the whole city on their back. 
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